China's overland Silk Road and Maritime Silk Road Thread


hullopilllw

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Isn't it obvious to you guys that the whole Uyghur propaganda is just to turn muslims against China? Sow doubt in the minds of Pakistanis and Iranians.
This is weird considering while the 20+ odd mainly angglo saxxon nations are attacking China in UN on Xinjiang issue, the 55 nations that backed up China are mostly muslim majority nations.

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Notice the narrative here on "The “Like-Minded Group” in the United Nations, and Beijing’s Campaign for Influence in the Developing World"

According to US :


When nations attack China on Xinjiang, it is natural and just/right.
But for those nations which support China on Xinjiang, they are not doing it out off their own will, but rather under Beijing's pressure campaign for influence.

The fundamental assumption underpinning both positions is China being a malign actor.

What I really am eager to know is : Are those what US thinktanks sincerely believe in or just a political narrative to fool their domestic crowd?

 

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This is weird considering while the 20+ odd mainly angglo saxxon nations are attacking China in UN on Xinjiang issue, the 55 nations that backed up China are mostly muslim majority nations.

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Notice the narrative here on "The “Like-Minded Group” in the United Nations, and Beijing’s Campaign for Influence in the Developing World"

According to US :


When nations attack China on Xinjiang, it is natural and just/right.
But for those nations which support China on Xinjiang, they are not doing it out off their own will, but rather under Beijing's pressure campaign for influence.

The fundamental assumption underpinning both positions is China being a malign actor.

What I really am eager to know is : Are those what US thinktanks sincerely believe in or just a political narrative to fool their domestic crowd?

i’m describing more of the civilian level. The Uyghur propaganda is meant to appeal to emotions the masses with little political knowledge.


I see on pakistani reddit people frequently mention uyghur bullshit (could be an indian)

They seem rather reluctant to be allied with China due to this reason. Always the “no other choice” or “friends with benefits”stance.
 

Equation

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i’m describing more of the civilian level. The Uyghur propaganda is meant to appeal to emotions the masses with little political knowledge.


I see on pakistani reddit people frequently mention uyghur bullshit (could be an indian)

They seem rather reluctant to be allied with China due to this reason. Always the “no other choice” or “friends with benefits”stance.
Than they need to see one Nathan's Rich video in regard to this topic.

 

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What I really am eager to know is : Are those what US thinktanks sincerely believe in or just a political narrative to fool their domestic crowd?
This should be standard propaganda for foreign audiences.

I saw some American movies from Hollywood about the Vietnam War, and the North Vietnamese would distribute pamphlets in the field to US troops. It would say to the US black soldier do not fight the white man's war. That was a movie.

Found this example right now.

 

davidau

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This is weird considering while the 20+ odd mainly angglo saxxon nations are attacking China in UN on Xinjiang issue, the 55 nations that backed up China are mostly muslim majority nations.

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Notice the narrative here on "The “Like-Minded Group” in the United Nations, and Beijing’s Campaign for Influence in the Developing World"

According to US :


When nations attack China on Xinjiang, it is natural and just/right.
But for those nations which support China on Xinjiang, they are not doing it out off their own will, but rather under Beijing's pressure campaign for influence.

The fundamental assumption underpinning both positions is China being a malign actor.

What I really am eager to know is : Are those what US thinktanks sincerely believe in or just a political narrative to fool their domestic crowd?

bravo!
trump's admin and pompeo try every dirty, untrue and wanton tricks in the CIA's book to convince its allies that China is bad, wicked, can not be trusted. Not too long ago, in the 50s, the western world coined the Chinese commies, yellow perils, reds under the bed to engender utterly distrust about China with a hint of, not too subtle, racism. The western countries and others start to wake up about trump's warmongering tactics. if they can't beat it: Huawei, Tiktok, and others under a fact less jingoism of national security. but if you give some big money to the us treasury as proposed by trump for Tiktok, then it is ok [no national security problem, hah!]. really it is a daylight robbery coverted by trump & his gang.. us thinktank will do well to learn a bit about China which has a record history and culture of over 5000 years.
 

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China-Laos railway holes all 75 tunnels



A ceremony is held to celebrate the drilling through of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos, Sept. 29, 2020. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)



Photo taken on Sept. 28, 2020 shows the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)




Photo taken on Sept. 28, 2020 shows the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)




Workers are busy at the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos, Sept. 28, 2020. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)




Workers are busy at the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos, Sept. 28, 2020. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)

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China-Laos railway holes all 75 tunnels



A worker is busy at the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos, Sept. 28, 2020. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)



Photo taken on Sept. 28, 2020 shows the construction site of the Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, Laos. Xiang Ngeun No. 3 Tunnel, the last tunnel along the China-Laos Railway, was drilled through on Tuesday. So far, all the 75 tunnels across the China-Laos Railway have been holed. The successful completion of the tunnels indicates that the controlling factors affecting the China-Laos railway project have basically been removed. (Photo by Kaikeo Saiyasane/Xinhua)

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China–Laos railway completes last of its 75 tunnels

The Laos-China Railway Company (LCRC) says the final tunnel of its 414km rail project has been bored, signalling an end to the epic, large-scale civil engineering work the line required.



The milestone was reached yesterday, when engineers completed Xiang Ngeun Number 3 Tunnel in Luang Prabang Province, some 210 km north of Vientiane, the capital of Laos.

The line has 75 tunnels in total, allowing the line to pass through around 120km of mountains and forests. Many have been major civils projects in their own right. In June of this year, China Railway Guangzhou Engineering Group completed the 9.3km Ban Nakok Tunnel after more than two years of drilling through four fault zones and the deployment of “scientific and technological innovations” (see further reading).

An even longer tunnel, 15.2km in length, was bored in China’s Yunnan Province by China Railway 17th Bureau Group. The extreme nature of the project is reflected in the fact that the line will have 198km of tunnels and 62km of bridges – rather more than half the length of the line. The Xinhua news agency
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that the completion of tunnel and bridges on the line means that the remainder of the work will be taken up with building stations, laying track and setting up control systems.

So far, about 148km of track has been laid and the first station, at Nateuy, has been topped out. China Railway Construction Group began work on Vientiane station, the largest of the line’s 20 stops, at the beginning of July. The electrified 414km railway in Laos will run from Boten station, on the border between China and Laos, to Vientiane, with freight and passengers traveling at 160 km/h.

The cost of the project is estimated at $6bn, or roughly a third of Laos’ GDP. Some $3.6bn is in the form of a loan to Laos from the Export-Import Bank of China and the remaining $2.4bn has been provided by the LCRC, which is 70% owned by Chinese entities. Laos has also invested $250m from its national budget.

Ultimately, the railway will form a link in one of the flagship schemes of China’s Belt and Road initiative: an electrified standard gauge line from China to Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. The project broke ground in December 2016 and is scheduled to be begin running trains in December 2021.

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Sino-Thai Railway Inches Toward Resumption


The Thai government has announced a fresh tranche of funding for the high-speed rail line, which has long been plagued by delays. Progress on a stalled Chinese-backed railway in Thailand has taken a small step forward, with the Thai cabinet signing off on a 12 billion baht ($378 million) injection of funds for the project. The budget supplement could jump start construction on the long-delayed 253-kilometer high-speed line, which Chinese state firms are building between the capital Bangkok and the northeastern city of Nakhon Ratchasima.

According to government spokesperson Traisuree Taisaranakul, the additional money is needed for the purchase of China Railways’ faster CR Series bullet train, and the technical changes needed to accommodate it. “The additional budget will help with modernizing the system and service and will reduce maintenance costs in the long run,” she
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after the cabinet meeting. She added that the $5.3 billion project, originally slated for completion in 2023, is now expected to be ready in around five years.

The construction of the initial phase of the rail project involves three Chinese state-owned firms: the National Development and Reform Commission of China, China Railway International, and China Railway Design Corporation.
The Thai railway line forms an important link in the chain of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), and it is generally assumed that it will eventually extend onward to the city of Nong Khai, which sits across the Mekong River from the Lao capital Vientiane. Here it would connect up with the $6 billion Chinese railway line currently under construction in Laos, which runs from the capital Vientiane to the border with China’s Yunnan province, where it plugs into China’s own extensive high-speed rail network.

But since its inception in 2014, the Sino-Thai rail project has been beset by delays, including disagreements over design, financing and technical assistance. Since Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha broke ground on the project in December 2017, construction had yet to extend beyond a 3.5-kilometer stretch of track on the outskirts of Bangkok. A decision has also
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on whether to extend the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima line to Nong Khai, despite the
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of a memorandum of cooperation between Thailand, Laos and China on the construction of a new railway bridge across the Mekong River.

Last week, Thai highway department chief Apirat Chaiwongnoi
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that a rail base for the initial 3.5-kilometer segment of rail had been completed. As a result, he said, the project will now be handed over to the State Railway of Thailand (SRT), which will work with its Chinese partners to start extending the line.

The project’s history of sluggish progress gives reason to be skeptical of the official time frame, especially against the backdrop of regional economic recession caused by the coronavirus pandemic. According to a regional economic outlook published by the World Bank this week, Thailand is
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of between 8.3 and 10.4 percent in 2020 – the worst outlook of any nation in Southeast Asia.

Last month, the State Railway of Thailand
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of a separate 220-kilometer high-speed rail line, which is slated to connect the country’s Suvarnabhumi, Don Mueang, and U-Tapao airports. In announcing the postponement, the government did not allude to the COVID-19 crisis, but following its
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of the purchase of two Chinese submarines, it is reasonable to assume that the suspension is related to the pandemic.

There is also the question of whether Chinese laborers and engineers will be able to enter Thailand to resume work on the project. While Thailand next week will receive a flight of 120 Chinese tourists from Guangzhou,
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to come to the country since it sealed its borders due to COVID-19, a full resumption of travel between the two countries is unlikely to happen for some time. In the end, it may well be the virus that decides whether China’s railway ambitions surge forward, or end up on a fast track to nowhere.

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davidau

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This is weird considering while the 20+ odd mainly angglo saxxon nations are attacking China in UN on Xinjiang issue, the 55 nations that backed up China are mostly muslim majority nations.

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Notice the narrative here on "The “Like-Minded Group” in the United Nations, and Beijing’s Campaign for Influence in the Developing World"

According to US :


When nations attack China on Xinjiang, it is natural and just/right.
But for those nations which support China on Xinjiang, they are not doing it out off their own will, but rather under Beijing's pressure campaign for influence.

The fundamental assumption underpinning both positions is China being a malign actor.

What I really am eager to know is : Are those what US thinktanks sincerely believe in or just a political narrative to fool their domestic crowd?

if there's more fake news, this is it...about Xinjian, Tibet Covid 19.... what US and its lapdogs, lackeys trying to do is to discredit China anyway they can so help trump, the liar, racist, to be re-elected. they lie under their teeth, typically Pompeo, the ex-CIA who once said on TV CIA teaches him to lie, to twist the truth, to blame and so on, this has been indoctrinated in him, ingrained in him and with him, forever. his president's no better, a billionaire, paid $ 750 tax in 2016/7. he said he's smart. In the debate of trump/bidden 30 September, trump said he paid millions in tax, but to who? .. unfortunate bidden did not quiz how much trump paid to other countries eg India, Russia.. with his hotel chains and resorts, golf links etc but to US, he paid a token $750. this is a hypocrite who wanted to be elected a second term. hope the US people can see through him, and dump him, in the ocean, like a ton of bricks!
 

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