China's overland Silk Road and Maritime Silk Road Thread


maint1234

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Unlike India, China is NOT a police state where maps that don't conform to its perception of the world is banned. And interns are always lazy and use whatever is found first even if it's wrong.
Hahaha. Needed that.
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"CHINA DESTROYS 30,000 WORLD MAPS SHOWING 'PROBLEMATIC' BORDERS OF TAIWAN AND INDIA
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On 3/26/19 at 1:28 PM EDT


Chinese customs officers indicate the location of Taiwan on a confiscated map in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, April 18, 2018. China claims Taiwan as its own and opposes any reference to the self-ruling island as an independent nation."
 

taxiya

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And why should the listed nations not ? Germany, French and Britain has interests in the success of OBOR, in fact the overland silk road freight train route ends at Duisburg which is in Germany. The notion that "if you are not with us, then you are against us" is just as petty and immature as Washington's stance on the global war on terror back in 2001.
Same reason that a foreigner has absolutely no voting right in your parliament? Or to be your Prime Minister or President? Why is that so difficult to understand?

And how could you even compare with "with us or against us"? Nobody said something like "Not inside OBOR is against OBOR", what was said is that "Not inside has no right to audit".

I do welcome the said countries to join OBOR FIRST as a member, then they gain all sorts of right to make a say.
 

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Intentions and attitudes means next to nothing here, what matters most is that if the West decides to step up investment initiatives with the world there is all to gain and nothing to lose.
There is no presupposed glory gained or lost with the OBOR project at its initiation, such things depends on the actions and results of the participates, even late comers can achieve the same results as first times if they act smartly.
Nor is such things anathema to the West, the Marshall Plan in 1946 is a clearest example.
As living humans, intentions and attitudes matter a lot in what we think, plan, do and say, in stark contrast to living microbes whether they are commensal or pathogenic has nothing to do with their intentions and attitudes, if any. True intentions of the likes of DFC, Free and Open Indo-Pacific Strategy, Euro-Asian connectivity strategy don't resemble any intentions to share all gains and have nobody to lose. Look those up and if you cannot honestly admit they are set up in jealous rivalry to OBOR and dead set to undercut or sabotage China in every step of her whole endeavor to connect the world, so be it. None of them invites China to participate, unlike China who invites them all from the get go. We are tired of hearing grand standing lectures on the soapbox.
 

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Intentions and attitudes means next to nothing here, what matters most is that if the West decides to step up investment initiatives with the world there is all to gain and nothing to lose.
There is no presupposed glory gained or lost with the OBOR project at its initiation, such things depends on the actions and results of the participates, even late comers can achieve the same results as first times if they act smartly.
Nor is such things anathema to the West, the Marshall Plan in 1946 is a clearest example.
The west has NEVER "decides to step up investments initiatives with the world" before or after China's OBOR started to get popular. What matters most is that China are investing to poorer central Asian nations without regime changing. Where was the "Marshall Plan" needed after the fall of the Soviet Union for these central Asian nations? o_O
 

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Hahaha. Needed that.
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"CHINA DESTROYS 30,000 WORLD MAPS SHOWING 'PROBLEMATIC' BORDERS OF TAIWAN AND INDIA
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Chinese customs officers indicate the location of Taiwan on a confiscated map in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, April 18, 2018. China claims Taiwan as its own and opposes any reference to the self-ruling island as an independent nation."
So you do accept that the answer to your post below is a MISTAKE? And other people's refuting of your interpretation is respecting FACT. And you are the one who has issues with FACT?;)

Advice to you, be careful with what you say, sooner or later your inconsistency will be caught if you don't respect fact.

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"2nd BRI Summit under way in "Beijing: China gets map right on Jammu & Kashmir, Arunachal Pradesh

Map surprisingly portrays India as part of BRI even as India boycotted summit for the 2nd time.
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, ET Bureau | Apr 26, 2019, 08.34 AM IST


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The map has been displayed by China’s ministry of commerce on the occasion of the three-day BRI Summit.
NEW DELHI: As the second edition of Belt and Road Initiative Summit got under way in Beijing on Thursday,
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has displayed a map with BRI routes that curiously shows entire Jammu & Kashmir and
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as part of India.


The map also surprisingly portrays India as part of BRI even when India boycotted the summit for the second time. The map has been displayed by China’s ministry of commerce on the occasion of the three-day
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Mistake or deliberate ?
 

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So you do accept that the answer to your post below is a MISTAKE? And other people's refuting of your interpretation is respecting FACT. And you are the one who has issues with FACT?;)

Advice to you, be careful with what you say, sooner or later your inconsistency will be caught if you don't respect fact.
Dude forget about him. Let the Indians believe whatever makes them happy. They'll be running out of groundwater in a few years and become smog land. They'll have the largest undereducated young population in an era of automation.

Question is, will they eventually seek Chinese aid? Will they accept Chinese aid (BRI) if offered?
 

maint1234

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Now even the Indian warships passed through the Taiwan straits on their way to the chinese naval meet. Wonder why the chinese didn't object.?.
Notice the Indian navies quote" as per international law ".
Indian naval ships arrive for Chinese Navy fleet review, Pakistan to miss
The Indian naval ships significantly arrived through the
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, the narrow strip of waters of the Pacific that separates China and Taiwan, which Beijing claims as a part of it. China protested to America on March 25 when two US naval ships sailed through the Taiwan Strait.
Captain Aditya Hara, on asked about their arrival through the Taiwan Strait, said the ships did pass through it and that the transit was made in accordance with the international law and Chinese ships were present in the Strait to offer assistance for a safe passage"


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Now even the Indian warships passed through the Taiwan straits on their way to the chinese naval meet. Wonder why the chinese didn't object.?.
Notice the Indian navies quote" as per international law ".
Indian naval ships arrive for Chinese Navy fleet review, Pakistan to miss
The Indian naval ships significantly arrived through the
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, the narrow strip of waters of the Pacific that separates China and Taiwan, which Beijing claims as a part of it. China protested to America on March 25 when two US naval ships sailed through the Taiwan Strait.

Captain Aditya Hara, on asked about their arrival through the Taiwan Strait, said the ships did pass through it and that the transit was made in accordance with the international law and Chinese ships were present in the Strait to offer assistance for a safe passage"

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You just want to say that "Chinese loves Indian"? Because, not only Chinese did not complain, but also welcomed you? Or, is it that Chinese just don't see a big deal of your ship?;) Seriously, you really think that you can speak for Chinese people's opinion or attituded concerning Indian and Pakistan? Talk to a Chinese first.

And, what is your point of posting this in OBOR thread anyway?o_O Take it in "Indian military news" thread, please.
 

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