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Hendrik_2000

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Yes they are learning from the Russian according to Japan times
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The Chinese military has integrated its land, sea and air conventional forces with new space, cyber, electromagnetic and cognitive domains to enhance its joint operations capabilities and will aim to equal or surpass the United States in 2050, a Japanese Defense Ministry think tank warned Friday.
The annual report on China’s security strategy by the National Institute for Defense Studies was released as the rivalry between Washington and Beijing has been intensifying, and attention is growing on the timeline for a possible Chinese invasion of self-ruled Taiwan.


In March, then U.S. Indo-Pacific Command chief Adm. Philip Davidson said that China could try to invade Taiwan “in the next six years.”
After decades of military reform, China has, to a certain degree, attained centralized command structures to defend its combat systems, and identify and strike potential adversaries’ vital weak points, the China Security Report 2022 said.
The People’s Liberation Army “went beyond merely imitating Western countries. It made the joint operations concept unique by basing it on the PLA’s tradition and novel by taking new technological developments into account,” the report said.
Beijing started to research joint operations capabilities after the Gulf War, triggered by Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait on Aug. 2, 1990.

The report said that China is learning from Russian forces.
“As the Chinese military has not had any real combat experience since the 1980s, China attaches great importance to Sino-Russian training. They have repeated such exercises several times,” Sugiura said.
China and Russia have been ramping up joint military exercises around Japan recently.

The two countries’ warships sailed around most of the Japanese archipelago last month, according to Japan’s Defense Ministry. More recently, Japanese fighter jets scrambled in response to two Chinese and two Russian bombers flying over the Sea of Japan and the East China Sea last week, according to the ministry.
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Yes they are learning from the Russian according to Japan times
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The Chinese military has integrated its land, sea and air conventional forces with new space, cyber, electromagnetic and cognitive domains to enhance its joint operations capabilities and will aim to equal or surpass the United States in 2050, a Japanese Defense Ministry think tank warned Friday.
The annual report on China’s security strategy by the National Institute for Defense Studies was released as the rivalry between Washington and Beijing has been intensifying, and attention is growing on the timeline for a possible Chinese invasion of self-ruled Taiwan.


In March, then U.S. Indo-Pacific Command chief Adm. Philip Davidson said that China could try to invade Taiwan “in the next six years.”
After decades of military reform, China has, to a certain degree, attained centralized command structures to defend its combat systems, and identify and strike potential adversaries’ vital weak points, the China Security Report 2022 said.
The People’s Liberation Army “went beyond merely imitating Western countries. It made the joint operations concept unique by basing it on the PLA’s tradition and novel by taking new technological developments into account,” the report said.
Beijing started to research joint operations capabilities after the Gulf War, triggered by Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait on Aug. 2, 1990.

The report said that China is learning from Russian forces.
“As the Chinese military has not had any real combat experience since the 1980s, China attaches great importance to Sino-Russian training. They have repeated such exercises several times,” Sugiura said.
China and Russia have been ramping up joint military exercises around Japan recently.

The two countries’ warships sailed around most of the Japanese archipelago last month, according to Japan’s Defense Ministry. More recently, Japanese fighter jets scrambled in response to two Chinese and two Russian bombers flying over the Sea of Japan and the East China Sea last week, according to the ministry.
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I was long-lurking on another mil forum where it was implied that PLA would face Japanese troops in combat should Taiwan be taken by force(so this Japn think tank is thinking along the same lines)I wonder ???The thread on Chinese dominant superiority in IRBM's and such might prevent this but Japn troops shooting at PLA??Unthinkable.And catastrophic.....for Japan.
 

Xizor

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I was long-lurking on another mil forum where it was implied that PLA would face Japanese troops in combat should Taiwan be taken by force(so this Japn think tank is thinking along the same lines)I wonder ???The thread on Chinese dominant superiority in IRBM's and such might prevent this but Japn troops shooting at PLA??Unthinkable.And catastrophic.....for Japan.
In that scenario, PLA should disinvest in their propaganda division as no further propaganda is needed to bolster popular support.

And Japan would've to be really crazy to commit to anything other than sidebench support.
 

Jingle Bells

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In that scenario, PLA should disinvest in their propaganda division as no further propaganda is needed to bolster popular support.

And Japan would've to be really crazy to commit to anything other than sidebench support.
In every field, there is a knowledge gap between the common folks and the experts. For warfare, the majority of people's perception of how war is going to be fought would be very much behind how experts know it would be fought. Common folks don't understand war, their concepts are still in the 60s. Just like how the media "experts" in Taiwan always depict the potential upcoming unification war would be a Normandy still "zerg-rush" amphibious assault. This is to be expected.
 

Ringsword

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In every field, there is a knowledge gap between the common folks and the experts. For warfare, the majority of people's perception of how war is going to be fought would be very much behind how experts know it would be fought. Common folks don't understand war, their concepts are still in the 60s. Just like how the media "experts" in Taiwan always depict the potential upcoming unification war would be a Normandy still "zerg-rush" amphibious assault. This is to be expected.
Just recently ex-PM of Japan Shinzo Abe said that China's forceful reunification of Taiwan would be an issue that neither Japan or USa couldn't ignore nor not get involved in militarily-?????Is this 1921 or 1931?
 

manqiangrexue

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Just recently ex-PM of Japan Shinzo Abe said that China's forceful reunification of Taiwan would be an issue that neither Japan or USa couldn't ignore nor not get involved in militarily-?????Is this 1921 or 1931?
Japan learns from the USA. They say things; but it means nothing. Biden just said the Taliban couldn't retake Afghanistan; 2 weeks later, 100% Taliban control. Americans just shrug, don't even feel embarrassed cus that's how often the get proven wrong and how much responsibility they feel towards what they say. That's the amount of weight and consideration that the words of America and its followers deserve to be given.
 

Jingle Bells

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Just recently ex-PM of Japan Shinzo Abe said that China's forceful reunification of Taiwan would be an issue that neither Japan or USa couldn't ignore nor not get involved in militarily-?????Is this 1921 or 1931?
He can say that because he is NOT the incumbent PM. But realistically speaking, Japan has nothing to back up Shinzo's bravado.
 

Phead128

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In democracies like US or Japan, you can say crazy shit and there is no accountability because voting populace is distracted or given up on politics. So the limited attention span of voters combined with general disillusion of politics means politicians can say one thing to one group and say another thing 10 mins later. The fact that Abe said it while out of office should give you a clue how much courage Japan has....none.
 
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