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quantumlight

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I posted the English version report from SCMP and I was actually unaware that this same top spy catcher is the one being alleged by the wishful American Jai Hind as the high level defector. I know am pretty new and largely ignorant to a lot of the PLA military improvements so I wasn't aware that China is now capable of human cloning and or teleportation. Good lord have mercy if this is the case, then the west days are over.
Five years ago I would have believed China was covering up, nowadays I automatically know its US Jai Hind propaganda... CIA tricks is getting old
 

advill

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I'd say the children will be more rounded and adaptable as well, instead of studying all the time.

Plus if all children are aiming for same path, there simply aren't enough spaces in society for them. There has to be more pathways and endpoints available in life.
There is nothing wrong with what you say. However, where studying is concerned it is a cultural thing: (1) Hereditary … Confucianist countries (China, Japanese, S Korean, Vietnamese, Singapore (75 percent of population is Chinese) placed importance in studying/education which is highly regarded to enhance their future. The past history of China is that of hardships, famine & domestic wars. Many have migrated to South East Asia and throughout the world (inc. as coolies in America) with only with meagre belongings. They slogged in menial jobs & were willing to work hard for their families and make sure their children study hard to have better lives for themselves & families. (2) Environment …. domestic, regional and now international push the people and their children to study in a highly competitive world. I would agree that there should also be a balance in children’s lifes BUT studying and working hard for improvement and advancement are inherent in Confucianist culture. Somewhat similar with the Jews .. they know the value of studyiNg and attaining academic/high technology achievements. Some Indians have also placed strong emphasis on studying in Maths, Science, Tech etc. & kids are also pushed Hard to study. It is really difficult to say which society or culture is better …. To each his/her own i.e. what the respective societies believe in. But in the final analysis it has a bearing on progress for the country, and improvement of people lives. Pl excuse me for my relative long comments … I have lectured part-time in Western and Chinese Universities, and I think I am quite well verse in these matters. BTW, I did my Masters in HRD at George Washington University, under the highly respected guru who is the founder of HRD - the Eminent Professor Leonard Nadler (an American of Jewish descent).
 

AndrewS

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There is nothing wrong with what you say. However, where studying is concerned it is a cultural thing: (1) Hereditary … Confucianist countries (China, Japanese, S Korean, Vietnamese, Singapore (75 percent of population is Chinese) placed importance in studying/education which is highly regarded to enhance their future. The past history of China is that of hardships, famine & domestic wars. Many have migrated to South East Asia and throughout the world (inc. as coolies in America) with only with meagre belongings. They slogged in menial jobs & were willing to work hard for their families and make sure their children study hard to have better lives for themselves & families. (2) Environment …. domestic, regional and now international push the people and their children to study in a highly competitive world. I would agree that there should also be a balance in children’s lifes BUT studying and working hard for improvement and advancement are inherent in Confucianist culture. Somewhat similar with the Jews .. they know the value of studyiNg and attaining academic/high technology achievements. Some Indians have also placed strong emphasis on studying in Maths, Science, Tech etc. & kids are also pushed Hard to study. It is really difficult to say which society or culture is better …. To each his/her own i.e. what the respective societies believe in. But in the final analysis it has a bearing on progress for the country, and improvement of people lives. Pl excuse me for my relative long comments … I have lectured part-time in Western and Chinese Universities, and I think I am quite well verse in these matters. BTW, I did my Masters in HRD at George Washington University, under the highly respected guru who is the founder of HRD - the Eminent Professor Leonard Nadler (an American of Jewish descent).

By any measure, you can see something is really wrong with Indian educational culture.

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Indian education is at the bottom of the world rankings, and has gotten worse over the past decade, as per PISA.
This lack of education will stay with these children for the rest of their lives in the next 50+ years.
COVID and Hindu nationalism will only make things even worse, because half of all Indian children are poor Dalits, Tribals or Muslims.

In January, the Indian government announced its plan to rejoin the Program for International Student Assessment, or
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, after a 10-year absence. The country dropped out of the ranking, run by the
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, in 2009 after being placed 72nd out of 74 nations.
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, school enrolment in India is up but the quality is often poor and is getting worse in some places. Nationally, only about half of children can read, and less than a third can do basic arithmetic, according to the report.
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But even with its best government schools being tested, India is still likely to come near the bottom of the PISA table, according to Jishnu Das, education economist at the World Bank's
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. This won’t come as a surprise to the government, which is already aware of declining education scores over the past decade thanks to school assessments conducted by education research nonprofit ACER India, he said.

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Bellum_Romanum

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CNBC business anchor thought he was going to put Joe Tsai (Vice-Chairman Alibaba) on the spot by going through the usual "human rights" propaganda attack against China and asking him to defend it. The outcome and the response isn't what the propagandist was expecting. As a consequence, this portion of the interview was apparently deleted before airtime.

 

siegecrossbow

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CNBC business anchor thought he was going to put Joe Tsai (Vice-Chairman Alibaba) on the spot by going through the usual "human rights" propaganda attack against China and asking him to defend it. The outcome and the response isn't what the propagandist was expecting. As a consequence, this portion of the interview was apparently deleted before airtime.


They really are doubling down on imitating everything Chinese, where it is infrastructure building, subsidizing businesses/industries, or plain old censorship.
 

HybridHypothesis

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CNBC business anchor thought he was going to put Joe Tsai (Vice-Chairman Alibaba) on the spot by going through the usual "human rights" propaganda attack against China and asking him to defend it. The outcome and the response isn't what the propagandist was expecting. As a consequence, this portion of the interview was apparently deleted before airtime.

Good enough to get them to delete it. The anti-mainlander racism was the strongest part of his defense, I would have liked to see more material on that. That section was probably why it was deleted as well!

Emphasizing how China "trades freedom for stability" is a tired trope, and accepts as an (unreasonable) premise that free speech and the rest of the so called "universal rights" are good.

On what basis is anyone entitled to freedom of speech, religion, protest, assembly, etc? If we accept these rights as unalienable, then we have to accept various forms of agitation for treason as also reasonable. Are these freedumbs more important than the state which makes it possible to enjoy them? Do you have these rights in a state of anarchy?

Its obvious that the HK insurgents were intent on creating a violent movement, as attested to the widespread violence against mainlanders they spawned. If they want all these universal human rights, then they should have started by embodying them.

Instead, they could not contain their tribal bloodlust. Viewed in this context, their calls for "muh freedom of speech" was just an excuse to launder their own hatred without consequence. If they wanted to introduce a western culture of muh freedumbs, then they shouldn't have attempted to organize pogroms.

In other words, once they became violent protesters, the crackdown was entirely justified. This is the same line that many Westerners use to condemn riots in their own societies. They say they support XYZ movement, but only if it remains "peaceful" and non confrontational. This rhetoric is understood by many viewers, and should be used more often.

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Also, basically every liberal thinks that the Jan 6 riot at Washington D.C. amounted to an insurrection and want the participants rounded up. The HK rioters did much worse, so its obvious that locking up violent political criminals is something everyone wants.
 
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