It's not in China's DNA to have a war, any war, Trade or Cold. China always adheres to win-win, non zero sum and especially respect of each other as equal, small or big country, non-interference in one another's internal affairs.
China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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It's not in China's DNA to have a war, any war, Trade or Cold. China always adheres to win-win, non zero sum and especially respect of each other as equal, small or big country, non-interference in one another's internal affairs.
have enjoyed reading the exchange of opinions so far.
As far as national image is concerned, there isn't much China can do to promote it as the western MSM controls the narrative.
A parable comes to mind:
a farmer, along with his boy, were taking their donkey to the market place for sale.
it was a long way off, so the farmer put his boy on the donkey. Alas, the bystanders scolded the boy for not respecting his father, and he should have let his father ride the donkey.
so the father rode on the donkey instead, and the bystanders hurled abuse at him for mistreating his boy, by letting his young son walk under the sun so cruelly.
so both of them rode on the beast, and this time the bystanders cursed them both for being cruel to the animal.
finally both of them got down and walked with the donkey, but alas, this time they were derided and jeered at for being stupid.
Moral of the story, just do what you know is right, and don't be bothered by public opinions, especially foreign hostile ones.
As far as national image is concerned, there isn't much China can do to promote it as the western MSM controls the narrative.
A parable comes to mind:
a farmer, along with his boy, were taking their donkey to the market place for sale.
it was a long way off, so the farmer put his boy on the donkey. Alas, the bystanders scolded the boy for not respecting his father, and he should have let his father ride the donkey.
so the father rode on the donkey instead, and the bystanders hurled abuse at him for mistreating his boy, by letting his young son walk under the sun so cruelly.
so both of them rode on the beast, and this time the bystanders cursed them both for being cruel to the animal.
finally both of them got down and walked with the donkey, but alas, this time they were derided and jeered at for being stupid.
Moral of the story, just do what you know is right, and don't be bothered by public opinions, especially foreign hostile ones.
I appreciate this because it aligns with my core Islamic values. However, there is a tactically sound way to understand this story: The father should have educated his son on this principle, to make him less susceptible to influence.
Here's the reality: Foreign propaganda doesn't stay 'foreign,' especially in the 21st century. It penetrates into your domestic population. Take Hong Kong for example. It's been reported that the CIA was involved in HK to cause instability. This isn't exactly the first time the West has run PsyOps to destabilize their opposition (Eastern Europe, Latin America, Middle East etc.) This isn't a trivial tactic. They are exceptionally good at this game, because they know it facilitates a 'divide and conquer' approach. Massive empires have fallen as a result of this throughout history. So you have to be able to articulate your reasoning to your own people (at the very least) so that they are not swayed by hostile propaganda. Your own people need to be crystal clear on your motivations and justifications.
I'll give you another example from Pakistan's case. Indian narratives are blasted all over Pakistan through many different mediums. Just the other day a friend forwarded me a video on whatsapp which backed up an Indian claim, and asked me to explain. He was simply confused as to whether or not the Indian narrative was correct. Pakistanis themselves become confused as to what is right/wrong when they encounter hostile propaganda, whether from India or the West. It's not easy to counter propaganda because it requires the simplification of a lot of complexity and nuance. This is an actual problem. Those who don't take it seriously do so at their own peril.
unfortunately I cannot give you any opinion on how to resist Indian propaganda in Pakistan as I don't know your beloved country that well.
but I can say a thing or two concerning the colored / umbrella revolution in HK as I am a local citizen.
the protesters have the backing, both financially and logistically, of the US, UK, Taiwan and possibly Australia. The protesters have a false illusion but firm belief that democracy and the western way of life are the best things that can happen to mankind.
and they are willing to sacrifice the financial well being and prosperity of HK along their path to total democracy and self rule / independence. Sadly, they have the backing, overtly and covertly, of many of the local institutions such as the Catholic / Protestant Churches, judiciary, education system, the press and reporters, TV and radio stations, social workers, and 60% ( rough guesstimate ) of the government officials. These act in concert to smear anything Chinese, and the central government. for some strange reasons, these people have a strong superiority complex and contempt over the Mainland Chinese, and refuse to acknowledge the ascent of China.
the only force blocking their progress is the Police force, hence the west is doing all they can to smear and discourage our wonderful police department. Against all odds and difficulties, our wonderful policemen and policewomen have stood their ground as ONE Body and Soul for the last one year battling the violent thugs every weekends mostly with tear gas, batons and chilli bullets.
Beijing has largely stood by for the last one year with only verbal warning to the thugs and their backers. But enough is enough, we are going to have tough National Security Laws introduced at the end of June, and more than 2 million citizens have signed up to show their support of the NSL, hoping for an end to the mayhem.
but I can say a thing or two concerning the colored / umbrella revolution in HK as I am a local citizen.
the protesters have the backing, both financially and logistically, of the US, UK, Taiwan and possibly Australia. The protesters have a false illusion but firm belief that democracy and the western way of life are the best things that can happen to mankind.
and they are willing to sacrifice the financial well being and prosperity of HK along their path to total democracy and self rule / independence. Sadly, they have the backing, overtly and covertly, of many of the local institutions such as the Catholic / Protestant Churches, judiciary, education system, the press and reporters, TV and radio stations, social workers, and 60% ( rough guesstimate ) of the government officials. These act in concert to smear anything Chinese, and the central government. for some strange reasons, these people have a strong superiority complex and contempt over the Mainland Chinese, and refuse to acknowledge the ascent of China.
the only force blocking their progress is the Police force, hence the west is doing all they can to smear and discourage our wonderful police department. Against all odds and difficulties, our wonderful policemen and policewomen have stood their ground as ONE Body and Soul for the last one year battling the violent thugs every weekends mostly with tear gas, batons and chilli bullets.
Beijing has largely stood by for the last one year with only verbal warning to the thugs and their backers. But enough is enough, we are going to have tough National Security Laws introduced at the end of June, and more than 2 million citizens have signed up to show their support of the NSL, hoping for an end to the mayhem.
Right, and those "false illusions" are actually the most dangerous threat, because that's where it starts. It starts with Hollywood and the Western mainstream media machine, and then comes the CIA to infiltrate your civil society, setting up financial and logistical networks.
solarz
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Except that in the case of Hong Kong, the son was kidnapped from birth by bandits and grew up with the bandits, only returning to the father after growing up. You don't educate a grown adult the same way you educate a child. An adult has firmly held beliefs that may be contrary to your own, while the child is a blank slate you can imprint upon.
Likewise, HK has deeply held beliefs that China is a backward, oppressive nation and that HKers are special and superior to the Mainland. Hong Kong is effectively "emancipated", it was granted autonomy to make its own decisions, be they good or bad. As a parent, China has two options: revoke HK's autonomy and start running it the way it runs other provinces, imposing its will by force if necessary, or allow HK to continue making its own decisions, and hope the natural consequences of those decisions will educate HK.
I believe China will try the second option and reserve the first option only if the second option fails.
There is a lot of anger directed against me here because I said we need to maintain relationship with EU and US. So let me lay it out for everyone why China and Chinese companies need a working relation ship with the West to continue to grow stronger.
US nominal GDP: 21 trillion
EU nominal GDP: 18 trillion
China nominal GDP: 14 trillion
Scenario 1: We maintain good relationships with EU + US:
Chinese companies have access to all 3 markets valued at 53 trillion.
Scenario 2: We have relations with EU but not US:
Chinese companies have access to 2 markets valued at 32 trillion
Scenario 3: Which is what some people are advocating here is we go into cold War with the US and EU.
Chinese company only have access to 1 market worth 14 trillion.
So in which scenario will China grow faster???? Answer this question logically please. Don't just spew the usual taking point "strength = bla bla bla".
Lastly, 4th party countries like SK, Japan will always side with US push come because EU and US market combines are wayyyy bigger.
US nominal GDP: 21 trillion
EU nominal GDP: 18 trillion
China nominal GDP: 14 trillion
Scenario 1: We maintain good relationships with EU + US:
Chinese companies have access to all 3 markets valued at 53 trillion.
Scenario 2: We have relations with EU but not US:
Chinese companies have access to 2 markets valued at 32 trillion
Scenario 3: Which is what some people are advocating here is we go into cold War with the US and EU.
Chinese company only have access to 1 market worth 14 trillion.
So in which scenario will China grow faster???? Answer this question logically please. Don't just spew the usual taking point "strength = bla bla bla".
Lastly, 4th party countries like SK, Japan will always side with US push come because EU and US market combines are wayyyy bigger.
Very good point and makes one wonder, why is Indian media blasted over Pakistan and not the one way around? Why is western media so dominating? Is it because they have the illusion of not being independent?
Why are some non-western media better at penetration around the world even though they are not independent media eg. TRT, RT, Al Jezeera? Is it because of their style of reporting? Sensationalism? China needs to know the reasons to learn and combat such things or else they will be perpetually behind.
I can answer this, because I watch TRT, RT, and al Jazeera. Chinese media is very focused on domestic audiences and the outward facing media like global times and CGTN do not take strong stances against or for issues that are relevant to the west. This is because of China's non interference policy.
Reason why RT and Al Jazeera are successful and have loyal followers in the West is because they channel the opinions of certain demographics in the US and other western countries.
Lastly, there is alot of cultural differences, so a lot of CGTN and global times content come off as extremely awkward or clumsy.
While Rt and al Jazeera have a large western editorial staff.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Unfortunately, the usual "strength = blah blah blah" is the education that you need to understand international relations; it is the only cure to your disease. Why answer a question with no relevance? It's not free to have good relationships with these places. You're acting like it's a color choice on a car you're purchasing whether you want to be on good or bad terms with these countries.
What does the US want from China for a good relationship? China needs to kneecap itself and its technological development so that it can't rise to challenge the US. What does the EU want from China for a good relationship? China needs to open its markets and let its young start-ups be crushed by established and experienced European businesses. What do the small countries around China want for a good relationship? They want China to give up Diaoyu, SCS islands, etc... Are you willing to give these things? If you are, that's for starters. Next round, they'll all ask for more continuous blood-letting from China to maintain a fragile sense of "good relations." In the real world, Chinese diplomats need to actually balance having however good relationships they can get without giving up China's interests.
Your post once again shows a childish lack of understanding in regards to international politics.
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