The downside for China of course is that Biden may actually be able to avoid angering his allies and third parties.
China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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You are delusional if you think Biden's team means anything good for China. The problem for China in the US today is that there is absolutely no reason for any American to speak out in favor of China, other than purely money reasons which never win out in the end. Americans are not greedy for money. At the core they are a good, decent, kind-hearted, sentimental people, and they need sentimental reasons to treat China well, such as the belief that China is moving towards respecting human rights and democracy, that it is playing a stabilizing role in the world, etc. Unfortunately that is very far out the window and it would take a long time for a Chinese government to claw back goodwill in the US.
Sorry, I have to disagree. Americans are more sentimental than most, but are humans. They mostly care about China because that is what the media is focused on, and because it makes them feel better blaming others rather than themselves. With Biden in charge, and all his advisors having a history of interference in the Middle East, I believe that the media discourse will change as well. China will still be seen quite negatively, but as a competitor that encourages domestic reform rather than an enemy that needs to be challenged militarily.
Biden's advisors are also moderates on China, unlike Trump with China hawks, and will actually negotiate with China rather than constantly demand concessions. I believe that this will open opportunities for both countries to cooperate on world problems like the pandemic and climate change, which would improve the view of China as a contributer to the world. There might even be a pause to the trade war due to the economy. This won't be sudden, but after a few weeks of the media talking about China and the US working together to fight the pandemic, I think Americans will more or less calm down about China.
Human rights will gain more attention under Biden, that I agree on. (Trump didn't really care). But with the unemployment crisis at home, I think that a pause to the trade war would be too tempting to ignore, and the boost in business confidence at home would be enough to convince politicians from pressing the human right issues. At the very least, I believe that there will be a lower chance of war, which will give China time to grow. I really believe that Trump being reelected would lead to a hot war, which I feel China is not quite ready yet. Maybe in after 2035, which is Xi Jinping's goal for modernising China's military.
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I have already said US also has lots of failed policy.
Yes, not by making threats to everybody and overacting.
US take an hostile action againt huawei and China gov say it will which hurt US companies and consumers. Why do you or China Gov care about US companies and consumers ? That is not China gov job.
It also mean china will always try to de-escalate because for now US is still far more larger. That is why PRC Foreign Minister is having conciliatory tone to Bring US Ties Back.
We are talking about IR.
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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called for de-escalation at the opening of the China-U.S. Think Tanks Media Forum last Thursday
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Are you deliberately naive or do you really believe in these load of crap ?
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When it Is between US and CHina, Like a lot here you find virtue in every China action and bad in every US action. China passiveness is for working hard instead of shouting hard. When it is between China and a weaker country, it's the opposite. it's boring and uninteresting to discuss with you. You are hypocrite and too emotional.
You don't even know what you are talking about. CHina signed this stupid deal because they hope it will make Trump to de-escalate and stop tarrif. But now trump is escalating. That is how China wins for you? I'm tired to discuss with someone with so low level IR understanding.
In SCS no country will have an absolute win but strategically the US has for now the upper hand of having more military allies and security partners than China. You are too naive to grasp that.
Still trying to find virtue in everything linked to China. Like I said you are dull.
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For long term, i think trump would be a lot more beneficial for other countries.
That is not entirely correct.
If you take at a number of metrics, you end up with China as roughly equal to the USA.
For example: GDP, population, military spending, R&D spending, industrial metrics, consumer spending, etc
Have a look for yourself.
So it's still rational for China to want a peaceful environment for domestic development.
And even when China is bigger, it is still in China's interest to have good relations with the rest of the world as much as possible.
But it is also rational for China to demonstrate that there are costs if you are part of a China containment policy, irrespective of how big China is.
And what is the purpose of International Relations?
In China's case, it is to advance China's Grand Strategy, so it is entirely relevant.
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