China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

[FairAndUnbiased]

Would PLARF replace old DF31/A to this AG version, it seems AG is much more advanced and modern

Even DF-41 is bigger, longer ranged and better, I think DF-31AG is still needed to increase the deterrence and to more complicate the defense of the adversaries .

Anybody has a rumour of how many DF-31AG are in service now in 2025 ?

I think they're moving the old DF-31s to silos and having DF-31AG as the "medium" ICBM while DF-41 is the "heavy" ICBM.

 

[antiterror13]

I think they're moving the old DF-31s to silos and having DF-31AG as the "medium" ICBM while DF-41 is the "heavy" ICBM.

What is the rationale putting "old" DF-31 into the silo? did you mean DF-31 or DF-31A ?

 

[sunnymaxi]

I think they're moving the old DF-31s to silos and having DF-31AG as the "medium" ICBM while DF-41 is the "heavy" ICBM.

What is the rationale putting "old" DF-31 into the silo? did you mean DF-31 or DF-31A ?

nobody knows the exact information.

there is also heavy silo based DF-5B/DF-5C ICBMs..

as per US report, China deployed DF-41 in newly constructed silos.

 

[Totoro]

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Usually such photo ops include whole unit personnel. If so, how plausible is it that df31 unit has 48 troops, as seen here?
12 launcher vehicles?
Comms vehicles, survey vehicle, command vehicle? What else?

 

[ismellcopium]

Nice episode with some relevant tidbits. Including: JL-3 is the interim JL-2 successor on 094 (supposedly not named 2A/B because they didn't like the name) which you shouldn't have "overly high expectations" for, JL-4 is for 096. And that western reports on the underground great wall are overblown (particularly the 5000km figure). Yankee also mentioned offhand KJ-500 count exceeds E-2D already. And lots of other stuff.

 

[Kalec]

Nice episode with some relevant tidbits. Including: JL-3 is the interim JL-2 successor on 094 (supposedly not named 2A/B because they didn't like the name) which you shouldn't have "overly high expectations" for, JL-4 is for 096. And that western reports on the underground great wall are overblown (particularly the 5000km figure). Yankee also mentioned offhand KJ-500 count exceeds E-2D already. And lots of other stuff.

I am just wondering if they mentioned anything from their perspective about next-gen ICBM?

I am still skeptical of the designation of "JL-3" as it is merely supposed to be an extended-range version of JL-2 and given the precedence of DF-31A to DF-31, no reason to name it as "JL-3." As for SLBM for 096, it is another beast for decades to come, at least from public information.

Underground Great Wall is never real from the very beginning. The idea is to make first strike uneconomical for the adversary and ideally one needs to build separate shelters around the country instead of a tunnel 5000km long.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

JL-3 is the interim JL-2 successor on 094 (supposedly not named 2A/B because they didn't like the name) which you shouldn't have "overly high expectations" for, JL-4 is for 096.

Which means the US Navy likely already got the accurate information back in 2022 when they already mentioned that the 094/A SSBNs are armed with JL-3 SL-ICBMs. We just didn't know any better back then.

Yankee also mentioned offhand KJ-500 count exceeds E-2D already.

According to Northrop Grumman's official webpage, there should be at least 70x E-2Ds in service around the world right now.

This should mean that China's AEW&C fleet reaching three digits should be a matter of within these 2-3 years, at most.

And lots of other stuff.

The video is for paid members only. Can you explain more?