China Flanker Thread II


Deino

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A line of J-16s belonging to the Eastern Theater Command.



Looks like from the 7th Brigade ..

J-16 61281 - 7. Brig.jpg
 

dankris

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Interesting new article about Su-27 and J-11 history (unfortunately in mandarin, I used a translator to read it).

a few interesting points from the article if I understand it correctly:
1. PLAAF actually bought 78 original Su-27 from Russia (36 Su-27SK + 42 Su-27UBK). Then, they license it as J-11 (105 airframes bought as kits and assembled in China). After that 105 licensed airframe, PLAAF decided to switch to J-11B from Shenyang.
2. The article claims that to compensate the Russians for the switch (no words about the original contract, but I believe our consensus is ~200 licensed airframe were planned but only ~100 made), China bought 76 Su-30MKK for PLAAF and 24 Su-30MK2 for PLAN (100 airframes).

Tl;dr: PLAAF might have 78 more Su-27 than I thought (although only in the old original form), then interesting new info about the renegotiation of the Su-27 license (China bought Su-30 to compensate Russia for the breach of license contract).
 

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Is this the first time we've been given an image of a J-16 with two MRAAMs in the centreline pylons? Can't remember if intake pylons can do that as well. That's capability to carry at least eight PL-15s with two PL-10s. Possibly ten PL-15s with two PL-10s.

Not exactly what you are asking for, but I believe J-15s have been spotted carrying PL-12s on the intake pylons, and the PL-15 is only slightly longer than the PL-12. So it should be reasonable to conclude that the J-16 can also carry the PL-12, and therefore also PL-15, on the intake pylons.

In any case, the J-16 was seen w/ PL-15s on centerline pylons as early as late 2017, but possibly even earlier. Live missiles too.
 

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Interesting new article about Su-27 and J-11 history (unfortunately in mandarin, I used a translator to read it).

a few interesting points from the article if I understand it correctly:
1. PLAAF actually bought 78 original Su-27 from Russia (36 Su-27SK + 42 Su-27UBK). Then, they license it as J-11 (105 airframes bought as kits and assembled in China). After that 105 licensed airframe, PLAAF decided to switch to J-11B from Shenyang.
2. The article claims that to compensate the Russians for the switch (no words about the original contract, but I believe our consensus is ~200 licensed airframe were planned but only ~100 made), China bought 76 Su-30MKK for PLAAF and 24 Su-30MK2 for PLAN (100 airframes).

Tl;dr: PLAAF might have 78 more Su-27 than I thought (although only in the old original form), then interesting new info about the renegotiation of the Su-27 license (China bought Su-30 to compensate Russia for the breach of license contract).

A Su-27UBK followed by a J-11A:

Su27UBK-J11A.jpg

Su-27UBK close-up:

Su-27UBK-front.jpg

J-11A takeoff:

J-11A.jpg

Only the yellow text is readable under J-11A's canopy: Immediately after the flight, check the reading marked "T" (probably for "tank"), and determine the refueling amount of the "basic" refueling plan.

J-11-cockpit.jpg
 

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