China Flanker Thread II

[lcloo]

I think there is still a place for dedicated strike aircraft. The Su-34 is a good example.

If the J-11CS turns out to be like the Su-34 with much larger airframe and side-by-side seating, it would be a terrific asset for the PLAAF. With a combat radius of 4500 km packing two CJ-10K (each with 1500+ km range), a strike aircraft like this would be perfect for PLAAF.

PLAAF is in urgent need of long range strike platforms. So far it seems it has only the H-6K (not yet mass produced) and a future trans-atmospheric bomber. Something like the Su-34 would be complementary.

The land based PLAAF and PLAN air wing can have dedicated strike aircrafts, but on aircraft carrier there is limited space, having separate strike group and fighter group means there is lesser number of aircraft available for strike or air interception.

A multi-role aircraft mean your number of strike and interception aircraft is double, and your repair maintenance, spare parts, logistic, pilot and support personnel training is easier.

 

[Roger604]

^ I was not talking about naval aviation but army aviation. The best force structure should be J-20, J-10B, J-11CS (Su-34 type).

 

[maozedong]

中国广播网1月26日报道 凌晨2点，在空军航空兵第一师机场塔台，正在进行国产某新型战机下半夜飞行训练。

一架架战机轰鸣着冲向夜空，同时还有几架正在旁边的跑道上滑行，驶向起飞点。这是空一师在圆满完成新中国60周年阅兵后第一次进行下半夜飞行训练，在稍早一些的准备飞行过程中，飞行员们都在认真地熟悉着将要进行的飞行计划。今天所要进行的下半夜飞行训练将会持续6个小时左右。

凌晨3点钟，完成了这个架次飞行的飞行员李晓峰已经从战机上下来，回到了塔台休息室。记者问到此次夜间训练所驾驶的国产最新型战机飞行状态怎么样时，李晓峰说，国产新型飞机座舱显示非常好，有很多自动调光的功能，飞行状态保持也非常好，非常舒适。新型飞机使用了一平五下的显示设备，综合航电系统显示内容非常丰富，人机界面非常友好，可以通过飞机上显示的这些信息来综合判断飞行员的飞行状态，从而方便了人为操选择所需要的信息。

当问到夜航训练要达到什么目的时，李晓峰告诉记者，作为全天候的作战飞机，飞行员要训练在任何气象条件下，任何时间段，就可以驾驶战机升空作战的水平。

本文来源：中国广播网

from the article said PLAAF 1st division training of pilots for midnight fight with " domestic newest model fighter", that should be J-11B.
accoding to the article described the aircraft cockpit," 一平五下", fits the photo below:

 

[Deino]

Just an idea ... are there any considerations to re-equip the J-11B with an IFR-probe mybe similar to the one on the J-10 ??

Deino

 

[tphuang]

[qimg]http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_1001/27_138423_50d76108fa5242e.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_1001/27_138423_f02553ed1921b03.jpg[/qimg]


from the article said PLAAF 1st division training of pilots for midnight fight with " domestic newest model fighter", that should be J-11B.
accoding to the article described the aircraft cockpit," 一平五下", fits the photo below:

[qimg]http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_1001/27_138423_a5f076afa784348.jpg[/qimg]

that's not the current J-11B cockpit. This is the one from huitong's website. It has the pilot in there and shows the much talked about holographic HUD.

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I suspect there is probably 5 MFDs as they said in there, but they really need a more modern cockpit with 2 large MFDs or 1 single MFD like the one on F-35.

 

[Armand2REP]

Alors, this picture of a bunch of J-11Bs without engines recently surfaced.

Looks like all the talk about the WS-10 being in full production is false.

 

[Centrist]

Alors, this picture of a bunch of J-11Bs without engines recently surfaced.

[qimg]http://vpk.name/file/img/J11.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like all the talk about the WS-10 being in full production is false.

But when was the photo taken? We don't know. It's is possible that a number of J11B's were built and are awaiting engines still.

 

[steven_master]

Is it possible that these are J-11b waiting to have ws-10 installed on them

 

[kroko]

Alors, this picture of a bunch of J-11Bs without engines recently surfaced.

[qimg]http://vpk.name/file/img/J11.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like all the talk about the WS-10 being in full production is false.

I could be wrong but this pictures seem very old. And what are those planes? The runway seems to be full of snow. How may J-11 bases in china are like that? I wonder if this are SU-27SK and this picture is in Russia...

 

[tphuang]

Alors, this picture of a bunch of J-11Bs without engines recently surfaced.

[qimg]http://vpk.name/file/img/J11.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like all the talk about the WS-10 being in full production is false.

I wonder why people freak out over posts like this. Earlier this year, WS-10A had problems which got resolved later, so they are now being equipped on J-11Bs.

J-11B + FWS-10 combination got a national award this year. Do you really think that would've happened if it's not finally certified?