China Flanker Thread II

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HKSDU

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What happened to the J11BS???

We have seen some limited photo mostly background photos of the twin seater J-11BS, but if this is true then Shenyang must of found some limitations or serious upgrades for them to dish out another variant.

Su-35 has a hybrid scanning RADAR with both Mechanical & Passive electronically scanning. Its not an AESA for example like the AN/APG-77.

Thanks for pointing out the typo. It reading "and its gonna be installed with AESA radar, since the Su-35 already has AESA."

it was meant to read "it was meant to be "and its gonna be installed with AESA radar, since the Su-35 already has PESA." :coffee:

The Su-35 platform uses N035 PESA radar.

what do you expect? its BS

He probably meant the twin seater variant of the J-11B, J-11BS. S=Shuang
 

tphuang

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just a couple of things to clear up.

That original article is just typical junk out of wforum that's a combination of kanwa article and something else.

As for J-11BS, we haven't seen any updates recently, but I assume one of the major hurdles is crossed now that the engine issue is resolved.
 

Centrist

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just a couple of things to clear up.

That original article is just typical junk out of wforum that's a combination of kanwa article and something else.

As for J-11BS, we haven't seen any updates recently, but I assume one of the major hurdles is crossed now that the engine issue is resolved.

I did have a question regarding the J11BS. Supposedly there is a JH7B in development...isn't it redundant to develop two fighter bombers for China? Since we know the J11BS is in development, why would China spend money developing a Qingling-2 engine/JH7B?
 

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I did have a question regarding the J11BS. Supposedly there is a JH7B in development...isn't it redundant to develop two fighter bombers for China? Since we know the J11BS is in development, why would China spend money developing a Qingling-2 engine/JH7B?

I believe JH7B was more of a attacking aircraft much like Tornado. J-11BS is more of a fighter-bomber (more on an air-superiority fighter like the F-15).
 

crobato

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I kind of doubt JH-7B would be pursued. I believe it was an idea hatched by XAC to gain more aircraft contracts in competition with SAC and CAC.
 

pla101prc

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I kind of doubt JH-7B would be pursued. I believe it was an idea hatched by XAC to gain more aircraft contracts in competition with SAC and CAC.

then what is China gonna use for fighter-bombers then, when JH-7A becomes obsolete in a few years?
 

latenlazy

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then what is China gonna use for fighter-bombers then, when JH-7A becomes obsolete in a few years?

Obsolete compared to what? Attack aircraft don't face the same pressure from arms races as fighters do. The JH-7A performs its role for its projected scenarios just fine. There's no point creating a super advanced replacement if you're never going to need those advanced features.
 

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Obsolete compared to what? Attack aircraft don't face the same pressure from arms races as fighters do. The JH-7A performs its role for its projected scenarios just fine. There's no point creating a super advanced replacement if you're never going to need those advanced features.

Actually attack plane are equally pressurise... what with the advances in radar and air-defence system. The JH-7 series of aircraft must be able to play in these environment.

Thus there is a point to update the JH-7 with higher technology and most probably find a so call 'super advanced replacement'. And rest assure, you are going to need all those advance features such as stealth, great air-to-ground attack capability, more powerful armour against ground base weapons, etc.
 

latenlazy

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Actually attack plane are equally pressurise... what with the advances in radar and air-defence system. The JH-7 series of aircraft must be able to play in these environment.

Thus there is a point to update the JH-7 with higher technology and most probably find a so call 'super advanced replacement'. And rest assure, you are going to need all those advance features such as stealth, great air-to-ground attack capability, more powerful armour against ground base weapons, etc.
Should have specified. I meant in terms of the basic airframe. You're not going to have to completely replace the airframe with a new design like you would with an air superiority fighter. That's why the US has gone through two or three generations of fighter planes but still use the A-10 as its primary attack aircraft.
 
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