China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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ougoah

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That's what you think. It's working right now that the right people are being bothered by it and the cherry on top is they're upset at their own reporting. China never bragged about this. I'm not the government so I can afford to be confident. The US likes to treat China like one of their girlfriends or wife they abuse and tell them they're never going to amount to anything without them in order to keep them in their control. Building confidence is what gets the abused out of an abusive relationship. Without confidence, there can be no advancement. "You can't do that so don't bother!"

And the problem with your reasoning is the fact that China isn't bothered by them and isn't lacking in confidence despite what they do. In fact China has never been bothered or lacked confidence not even in the 1950s. They always went their way and did their thing regardless of how abusive and threatening the US was.
 

AssassinsMace

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And the problem with your reasoning is the fact that China isn't bothered by them and isn't lacking in confidence despite what they do. In fact China has never been bothered or lacked confidence not even in the 1950s. They always went their way and did their thing regardless of how abusive and threatening the US was.
There is no advancement without confidence and your thinking has a problem with that. If you don't have the confidence of doing something, why bother doing it?
 

Jono

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Frankly I hope it is a reusable hypersonic glide vehicle because it can perform FOBS and be a reusable vehicle. China could be the first to have a commercial hypersonic vehicle and a hypersonic military bomber. It'll make traditional airliners obsolete and China will be the leader.
an attractive hypothesis for the young and brave. I wish I could be young again to take up this challenge. :cool:
but can a human body withstand such M20 speed, at least for the uninitiated and untrained average traveller?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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an attractive hypothesis for the young and brave. I wish I could be young again to take up this challenge. :cool:
but can a human body withstand such M20 speed, at least for the uninitiated and untrained average traveller?
velocity doesn't mean anything in an inertial frame. hurtling through the air at 1000 kph at 15000 m sounds scary. but you pay for the privilege every day.

it's when you collide with something else that velocity becomes meaningful. But inside a sealed airplane? You'd never know the difference between flying or being on the ground, stationary, with a shake table. This is a fundamental law of even classical mechanics.
 

Jono

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velocity doesn't mean anything in an inertial frame. hurtling through the air at 1000 kph at 15000 m sounds scary. but you pay for the privilege every day.

it's when you collide with something else that velocity becomes meaningful. But inside a sealed airplane? You'd never know the difference between flying or being on the ground, stationary, with a shake table. This is a fundamental law of even classical mechanics.
thank you very much, understand that.
but inside a hypervelocity vehicle, wouldn't the initial acceleration from zero to M20 and final deceleration from M20 to zero quite taxing on the human body, all this within one hour, talking about space travelling from X to Y?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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thank you very much, understand that.
but inside a hypervelocity vehicle, wouldn't the initial acceleration from zero to M20 and final deceleration from M20 to zero quite taxing on the human body, all this within one hour, talking about space travelling from X to Y?
I have no doubts that hypervelocity vehicles will never be used for Earth travel because of economic concerns like extremely low fuel efficiency, the very large airports required that add ground transport time to reach destination, etc.

it is also true that accelerating from 0 to M20 is hard - but not because of fundamentals, since IF you had an engine you can do it slowly. But there's no such engine. Rockets typically exert 3+ gs of acceleration which even strains fighter pilots and astronauts in pressure suits. A regular person would be squished like a bug. But if you want to go lower, there's no engine that will enable that speed. It's rockets or nothing.

Rockets also have extremely low reliability (1% failure) compared to jet engines (1 in 100 million failure) and price of failure is much higher (explosion) than price of failure of jet engines (not working but still being able to glide down).
 

Aniah

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The US bragged about Prompt Global Strike when it was only a concept and then cancelled it because of their hypersonic test failures. That's not over confidence? You don't think the US bragging was about psyching out adversaries and taking a hit on their self-esteem. That's how the game is played. China is further along than they ever imagined. Extra points for China.
Just want to add that the same happened to the railgun project.
 
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