China and India relationship

Xsizor said:

Indeed. I've come across that article.

The middle class of India and Middle class of some developing/developed countries are vastly different entities. There exists therefore a lower/middle/upper subclassifications of the middle class. India has mostly lower middle class while China has "Middle" middle class. The consumption of sub-premium brands like BMW/Mercedes between the middle classes of two countries give an idea ( the Indian numbers are ridiculously low). Even though trying to give a positive light on the sales of a German brand in China isn't exactly comfortable for me and is quite silly, it is a nice pointer to many things considering the allure of these ever radiant German brands.

By 2020
Annual Sale of BMW in China : 500,000 appr
Annual sale of Mercedes in China: 200,000 appr
( yearly increasing)

Annual sale of BMW in India: 8,000 appr
Annual sale of Mercedes in India: 7000 appr
( yearly decreasing) !

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India excels in 3 key exports:

1. exporting beef while throwing beef eating Indians into prison
2. exporting food while India produces only 1/3 the food that China does with equal population, and China still imports
3. exporting vaccines while Indians are infected with COVID

That cannot be middle class in any sense.

It depends how you define middle class. China's middle class in the 80s meant you had a bicycle, a sewing machine, a radio and a watch.

twineedle said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1440582191105208321

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Guys, I think we should leave Indian horrible internal problem aside and discuss more of relevant matter about "Defense" here.

Now, some guy post this Indian vs China army positioning in the arucanal pradesh front. What do you think about this? Indians seem swarming the border with their army, while China side look fewer in number compared to their counterpart. There are even some space that hasn't any army at all in China side.

Brainsuker said:

Guys, I think we should leave Indian horrible internal problem aside and discuss more of relevant matter about "Defense" here.

Now, some guy post this Indian vs China army positioning in the arucanal pradesh front. What do you think about this? Indians seem swarming the border with their army, while China side look fewer in number compared to their counterpart. There are even some space that hasn't any army at all in China side.

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Meh, this is a thread about China and India's overall relationship, not a discussion about border activities. Unless something significant occurs, I don't see why there's need to spam this thread with repetitive and pointless speculation.

If you really want to discuss this, please make a thread about events on the China-India border. I don't want to have to mute this one.

Brainsuker said:

Guys, I think we should leave Indian horrible internal problem aside and discuss more of relevant matter about "Defense" here.

Now, some guy post this Indian vs China army positioning in the arucanal pradesh front. What do you think about this? Indians seem swarming the border with their army, while China side look fewer in number compared to their counterpart. There are even some space that hasn't any army at all in China side.

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They just have men positioned on their side. Barely any mechanisation and no sophisticated mechanisation. If they want to invade, they would simply lose all those men.

Chances are high given the conduct of india during 2020 that in the event of a Sino-US war, that the indians will try to again, take advantage of a distracted china, to try to take those regions again.

hashtagpls said:

Chances are high given the conduct of india during 2020 that in the event of a Sino-US war, that the indians will try to again, take advantage of a distracted china, to try to take those regions again.

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This is what they are preparing for. If the USA and China head to war, China would only have neutron bombs for the Indians to keep them at bay so their strategy is a bit silly if they want to invade into China in case of US China war. If they want to escalate, by all means. It'll open pandora's box and to do that just because they aren't able to invade into China? I doubt it. I doubt their leaders are that stupid. China has thousands of BMD missiles and more nukes than India... MT thermonuclear against KT fission bombs and only a few dozen warheads most of which can't reach main part of China. China's been building up nuclear forces for a while and been waiting to upgrade launch systems when those new HGVs and 3rd gen warheads were ready. They've been ready since 2019 and the build up just in launch systems are recently publicly revealed.

The reality is US is heading towards today economic collapse later this year or next year some time. China recently demanded certain things from the US in order to bail them out again like back in 2009 (ghost city and massive Chinese build up and spending spree saved the global economy somewhat back 11 years ago).

Meng is returned and it's not because of the two Canadians because if that was the reason, they could have done that 2 years ago or so. China owns too much of the USA to let it collapse suddenly. If the US is a publicly traded company, China owns like 30% of the shares if not more. Holding currently way too much US dollars, bonds, and debt.

Brainsuker said:

Guys, I think we should leave Indian horrible internal problem aside and discuss more of relevant matter about "Defense" here.

Now, some guy post this Indian vs China army positioning in the arucanal pradesh front. What do you think about this? Indians seem swarming the border with their army, while China side look fewer in number compared to their counterpart. There are even some space that hasn't any army at all in China side.

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That region is a strategically vulnerable part for India and India has, since long, seeked to fortify it. You may look at the map of region where Bhutan/China/India meets.

If China gets Bangladesh on its side in the future ( and less likely, but on the same page as Pakistan) then the region becomes extremely vulnerable for India.

The Indian buildup there existed for decades. The recent buildup, if any, might be against the backdrop of India-China confrontation before Doklam that happened in Bhutan.The surprise would be China deciding to mirror the build up against India in the contested regions around Bhutan.

ougoah said:

This is what they are preparing for. If the USA and China head to war, China would only have neutron bombs for the Indians to keep them at bay so their strategy is a bit silly if they want to invade into China in case of US China war. If they want to escalate, by all means. It'll open pandora's box and to do that just because they aren't able to invade into China? I doubt it. I doubt their leaders are that stupid. China has thousands of BMD missiles and more nukes than India... MT thermonuclear against KT fission bombs and only a few dozen warheads most of which can't reach main part of China. China's been building up nuclear forces for a while and been waiting to upgrade launch systems when those new HGVs and 3rd gen warheads were ready. They've been ready since 2019 and the build up just in launch systems are recently publicly revealed.

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It is a safe, economical and inexpensive solution. The cost to make several neutrol bombs ranges from a few tens of millions to several hundred million dollars and once used will create a radioactive area for several decades. From a geographical perspective, the border area adjacent to India is a wasteland, without industrial and economic facilities, with very little population. If the Indians launched a large-scale invasion, the Chinese would only need to detonate a few neutrol bombs on the territory, creating a safety perimeter to block the Indians.

In the event of such a war; neutron bombs should saturate the subcontinent so that we are spared the spasms of Jai Hinds in the now and the future; after the radiation has cleared the subcontinent could be used as agricultural lands to feed China and the rest of the world.