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Pointblank

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Canada really needs to spend some serious toime and money updating its fleet.

My guess is that we will see the Canadian Fleet continue to grow smaller as time and attrition take their toll without a significant recapitalization effort geared towards new ships.

I've been told a rumour, but the Iroquois class destroyers are perhaps in even rougher shape than being publicly said. I've been told that HMCS Athabaskan has been stripped of her fire control radars and CIWS, and her VLS and torpedo tubes are non-operational. She's basically a floating comms platform right now.
 

Jeff Head

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I've been told a rumour, but the Iroquois class destroyers are perhaps in even rougher shape than being publicly said. I've been told that HMCS Athabaskan has been stripped of her fire control radars and CIWS, and her VLS and torpedo tubes are non-operational. She's basically a floating comms platform right now.
Well, the TRUMP modification really helped these vessels get modernized in the 1990s, but they were all commissioned in 1992, so they are over 40 years old now.

And the Huron was paid off in 2005, and they could not keep her crewed and so she was sunk in a SINKEX in 2007, leaving only the three.

Now it sounds like really only one of them is operational.

Thank goodness the Canadian Navy has the Halifax FFGs. They started coming online in 1992 and seem like a really decent design to me. Sort of remind me of the Royal Navy's Duke Class FFGs.
 

Pointblank

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Well, the TRUMP modification really helped these vessels get modernized in the 1990s, but they were all commissioned in 1992, so they are over 40 years old now.

And the Huron was paid off in 2005, and they could not keep her crewed and so she was sunk in a SINKEX in 2007, leaving only the three.

Now it sounds like really only one of them is operational.

Thank goodness the Canadian Navy has the Halifax FFGs. They started coming online in 1992 and seem like a really decent design to me. Sort of remind me of the Royal Navy's Duke Class FFGs.

Half of the Halifax class frigates are out of service right now as well; refits and reconfiguration under the Halifax modernization program.

In other news, HMCS Protecteur is being towed back to Victoria:

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HMCS Protecteur heading home under tow from U.S. navy tug
Canadian supply ship damaged by 2 fires in February departed Hawaii's Pearl Harbor on Thursday

A Canadian navy warship that was badly damaged in U.S. waters by a massive fire at sea in February is on its way back to Canadian waters, under tow by a U.S. tug, CBC News has learned.

HMCS Protecteur departed Pearl Harbor on Thursday morning under tow from USNS Salvor, beginning a slow voyage across the North Pacific back to its home port of CFB Esquimalt near Victoria, B.C.

There are four Royal Canadian Navy sailors aboard Salvor for the sail home.

"She's making six knots right now, which is good," said navy spokesman Lt.-Cmdr Des James. "From our perspective, everything looks promising."

The trip under tow is expected to take as long as three weeks, depending on the weather, but it could be Protecteur's last trip.

Commissioned in 1969, the ship was due to be retired in 2017, but the damage aboard following two fires at sea over three days was so severe that it's likely repairs will be too expensive for the navy to consider for just a couple years of service.

"It's still too early to make those calls," said James.

"We have to wait 'til we get her alongside and then get on board and get a detailed damage assessment. That work will happen in the next weeks or months. There's still a long journey ahead."
 

navyreco

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DCNS opens office in Canada to better develop FREMM Frigate to Royal Canadian Navy needs
DCNS Technologies Canada Inc. with headquarters in Ottawa, represents the first step towards the creation of Naval Systems Integration Center that was announced by Patrick Boissier, Chairman & CEO, during his November 2013 conferences given in Halifax, Ottawa and Toronto to establish a long-term strategic partnership with Canada. In particular, DCNS Technologies Canada Inc. will lead the design of the Canadian version of FREMM frigate, a contender for the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) programme under the National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy (NSPS).
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Jeff Head

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DCNS opens office in Canada to better develop FREMM Frigate to Royal Canadian Navy needs

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I was not aware that a final decision had been taken to design a Canadian FREMM for their future surface combatant.

If it has, all I can do is applaud it.

A Canada FREMM frigate will be an awesome choice for them...particularly when it is tailored and suited for Canada's maritime responnsibilities in the northern climes.

I will be really excited to see this developing.
 

navyreco

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I was not aware that a final decision had been taken to design a Canadian FREMM for their future surface combatant.

If it has, all I can do is applaud it.

A Canada FREMM frigate will be an awesome choice for them...particularly when it is tailored and suited for Canada's maritime responnsibilities in the northern climes.

I will be really excited to see this developing.

Jeff, actually as far as I know the Canadians have not made a final decision yet.
My personal interpretation is: DCNS getting either very confident in the chance of their FREMM design and/or they are doing everything they can to increase their chance to win.

Like you, I am curious to see how a "Canadian" FREMM would look like. Count on me to do everything I can to get a CGI as soon as DCNS is able to release one ;)
 

Jeff Head

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Jeff, actually as far as I know the Canadians have not made a final decision yet.
My personal interpretation is: DCNS getting either very confident in the chance of their FREMM design and/or they are doing everything they can to increase their chance to win.

Like you, I am curious to see how a "Canadian" FREMM would look like. Count on me to do everything I can to get a CGI as soon as DCNS is able to release one ;)
Thank you my friend, for that clarification.

I believe it would be an excllent choice...but just did not know if they had made that decision yet.

I cannot blame DCNS for aggressively going after the business.
 

Pointblank

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She's home:

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HMCS Protecteur towed into home port in Esquimalt, B.C.
Canadian supply ship damaged by 2 fires in February departed Hawaii's Pearl Harbor May 15

The Canadian naval warship damaged by fire while at sea in February has returned to its home port in B.C.

HMCS Protecteur was brought into Esquimalt Harbour by several tugboats on Saturday morning.

The crippled supply ship was towed to Hawaii's Pearl Harbour after the Feb. 27 engine room fire and remained there until two weeks ago. It was then towed back to Canada by the U.S. naval salvage ship Salnor.

The Royal Canadian Navy isn't saying how much damage was done to HMCS Protecteur, but sources say it's unlikely the vessel will be made seaworthy again.

The ship is slated for replacement in 2017 and it's not known whether a supply ship will be leased from another navy for the interim, nor is it known what the ship's 279-member crew will be doing for the foreseeable future.
 
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