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Minor vassals like Canada don't really deserve to pollute the big news threads, especially its silly headless chicken politics. Here's a thread for it.


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Rapporteur disputes media reports​

Johnston did not substantiate many of the allegations made in the media about Beijing's foreign interference.

With respect to a Global News story that said the Chinese government gave $250,000 to 11 candidates in the 2019 federal election, Johnston said there is "limited" evidence the Chinese government intended to provide funding for seven Liberal and four Conservative candidates through a community organization and an unnamed Ontario Progressive Conservative MPP.

He added there's no evidence Beijing followed through with the plan, or that the candidates, including the MPP, ever received any money.

A story by Global News, citing an unnamed national security source, said Liberal MP Han Dong advised an official at the Chinese consulate in Toronto to lengthen the detention of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, two Canadians the Chinese government had detained.

"The allegation is false. Mr. Dong discussed the 'two Michaels' with a PRC official but did not suggest to the official that the PRC extend their detention," Johnston said.

No action about actual foreign interference would ever occur, because the Americans would stand too much to lose. How many MPs have homes in Florida and goes to American conferences? How many have American campaign managers?
 

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Special rapporteur David Johnston released his first report on foreign interference on Tuesday, which involved analyzing recent media reports on allegations by unnamed national security sources that China meddled in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.

The former governor general tapped by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to investigate the issue said he dug into the validity of that reporting and assessed whether the Liberal government ignored threats or advice from national-security agencies.

Johnston ruled out a public inquiry, finding that much of it would have to be held in private due to top-secret information, but promised to hold his own public hearings instead. His final report is due at the end of October.

Here are five things we learned in his first report.

1. HE SAYS THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH HOW INTELLIGENCE IS SHARED WITHIN GOVERNMENT

Johnston said he didn't find evidence that cabinet ministers or Trudeau knowingly ignored intelligence, but found there needs to be a better flow of what information is shared between them, and why.

For example, staff at the Prime Minister's Office told Johnston they're given a large binder in a secure room to review material, with no ability to take notes for security reasons.

The binder contains a significant mix of topics from around the world, but no one says, "You should pay attention to this issue in particular," Johnston's report said. If staffers are away, they may not see the binder that day.

The prime minister also told Johnston he's only briefed on matters that are supported by reliable information.

2. HE ACCUSES SOME MEDIA ORANIZATIONS OF MISCONSTRUING INTELLIGENCE DUE TO A LACK OF CONTEXT

Johnston, who had access to classified documents and intelligence, reviewed allegations published in several reports by Global News and the Globe and Mail. He then drew different conclusions based on his assessment of that intelligence, what he was told by Trudeau, cabinet ministers and other officials, or what he viewed as a lack of evidence.

"When viewed in full context with all of the relevant intelligence, several leaked materials that raised legitimate questions turn out to have been misconstrued in some media reports, presumably because of the lack of this context," he wrote.

But Johnston said that broader context cannot be shared publicly.

Johnston said he put together a detailed classified annex of what he said actually happened in relation to each media report. That will be provided to the prime minister, members of cabinet, as well as officials or opposition leaders who are willing to get security clearance.

3. HE SAYS THERE IS NO INTELLIGENCE CONFIRMING THAT MONEY FROM CHINA REACHED SPECIFIC CANDIDATES IN THE 2019 ELECTION

Media reports have published allegations that federal candidates received funds during the 2019 federal election.

"Limited intelligence" supports the notion that the Chinese government intended for funds to reach seven Liberal and four Conservative candidates, Johnston's report said, but there is no intelligence suggesting that any of them received that money.

Other reports had indicated that a network of candidates and operatives in the Greater Toronto Area were willing participants in the Chinese Community Party's goals.

But Johnston found "no basis" to conclude that candidates were working in concert or understood the intentions of apparent Chinese government proxies who were communicating with them.

"No recommendation about a network of candidates was made as no network was known to exist," the report said.

4. HE SAYS THERE IS LITTLE TO SUPPORT A FORMER CONSERVATIVE LEADER'S CLAIM THAT SPECIFIC CANDIDATES WERE DEFEATED BECAUSE OF FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2021 ELECTION

After the 2021 federal election concluded, former Conservative leader Erin O'Toole asserted that China had interfered in the electoral process, costing his party eight or nine seats.

Johnston said it's hard to accept this assertion based on his investigation.

He said there's a possibility that some Chinese Canadians disagreed with the Conservative party's platform, but that's "not interference, it is the democratic process."

Johnston's report also threw water on the idea that China backed a Liberal minority government result in the 2021 election, as suggested by a Globe and Mail report in February.

Johnston's report said China is generally "party agnostic" and intelligence suggests its intention was to marginalize anti-China candidates rather than favouring certain parties.

5. HE SAYS TORONTO MP HAN DONG DID NOT ADVISE CHINA'S CONSULATE TO EXTEND THE DETENTION OF CANADIANS MICHAEL KOVRIG AND MICHAEL SPAVOR

In March, Global News published a story citing unidentified security sources who alleged Dong told a Chinese diplomat in February 2021 that releasing Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor would benefit the Conservatives.

The two Canadians had at that time been detained in China since December 2018, just over a week after the RCMP arrested Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver on a U.S. extradition warrant.

Dong resigned from the Liberal caucus to sit as an Independent MP following that report and has filed a lawsuit against Global News for those and other allegations related to Chinese interference.

"The allegation is false," Johnston wrote in his report, saying he came to his conclusion after reviewing the same intelligence report provided to Trudeau, adding the allegation has had an "adverse effect" on Dong.

Johnston said that while Dong maintained "close relationships" with Chinese consular officials at least through the 2021 election, and did discuss the case of Kovrig and Spavor with the Chinese diplomat, "he did not suggest to the official that (China) extend their detention."

In a statement, Dong said he feels vindicated by Johnston's report, but reiterated that the media reporting had already harmed him, his family and the communities he represents.

A spokeswoman for Global News and Corus Entertainment has previously said in a statement that the media organization is "very mindful of the public interest and legal responsibility of this important accountability reporting."

This report by The Canadian Press was first published May 23, 2023.
 

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Oh no Indian Bros, the age of friendship with Canada seems like coming to an end very soon.

India among top actors for foreign interference in Canada: national security adviser​

Jody Thomas says "a number of state actors and non-state proxies" are conducting foreign interference in Canada, and at a conference last week she listed three countries that Ottawa has frequently cited: China, Russia and Iran.

But Thomas also specifically mentioned India, a country the Liberals highlighted in their Indo-Pacific strategy as a priority for establishing closer economic and scientific ties.

 
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Wonder if the idiots in Ottawa know what they are getting into if they entertain this. Its the separatists, Bloc Qubebrokes gathering a conference of American funded separatists. Are they stupid enough to not see the implications here? Could Trudeau be that retarded?

The absolute farce of inquiring foreign interference when they have World Uyghur CongressTM Mehmet Tohti, who is well known for taking
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to the tune of at least 3 million by 2020.

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There's a 15 million lawsuit now.

Meanwhile, the Global News journalist who produced Global's stories on Dong, Sam Cooper, has decided to leave the news outlet "to pursue a personal journalism project," Global News said in a statement to CBC News.

The hatchetman has already left the building.

Maybe if the country can be free of its vassalage if
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and the Americns writes it off like Trump Steaks
 

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Oh no Indian Bros, the age of friendship with Canada seems like coming to an end very soon.

India among top actors for foreign interference in Canada: national security adviser​

Non-white? Check.
Doesn't vote the way we want you to vote? Check.
Election interference it is!
How dare they vote against us! It's like they think they have rights or something!
(You too Russians! y'all been purged from the "white" list now, so go sit with the Asians!)
 

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David Johnston resigning as special rapporteur on foreign interference​

House of Commons passed a motion calling on Johnston to step down last week

David Johnston — tasked by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau back in March with looking into allegations that China tried to meddle in the past two federal elections — says he has decided to step down from that role.

In a resignation letter sent to Trudeau, Johnston said his role has become too muddled in political controversy for him to continue.

"When I undertook the task of independent special rapporteur on foreign interference, my objective was to help build trust in our democratic institutions," the former governor general wrote.

"I have concluded that, given the highly partisan atmosphere around my appointment and work, my leadership has had the opposite effect."

Canadian version of Russiagate except replace Russia with China.


In other news the Cultural Revolution 2.0 has also spread to Canada.
 

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David Johnston resigning as special rapporteur on foreign interference​

House of Commons passed a motion calling on Johnston to step down last week


I think this could be a great thing.

Normally, I always object to these public inquiries, because it is just a waste of taxpayers money. The government and their friends just want the money to do this nonsense work. After the report is released, then according to the report from the public inquiry commissioned by the crown, then the pressure is on to throw more money at the problem, whatever it is.

But this time, if there is a public inquiry on election interference coming from China, then this could be a great thing.

What they want to know, what is the source of this information. Probably Fa Lun Gong. Where did they find that information?

Where is the evidence?

The white people have an expression. Be careful of what you wish for.

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