Brother of Ling Jihua Reveals China's nuclear launch code and top secrets to US

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Chinese Defector Reveals
Beijing’s Secrets

U.S. intelligence is debriefing brother of former presidential aide, translating documents

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Ling Jihua, pictured, provided sensitive documents to his brother, defector Ling Wancheng / AP


A defector from China has revealed some of the innermost secrets of the Chinese government and military, including details of its nuclear command and control system, according to American intelligence officials.

Businessman Ling Wancheng disappeared from public view in California last year shortly after his brother, Ling Jihua, a former high-ranking official in the Communist Party, was arrested in China on corruption charges.

Ling Wancheng, the defector, has been undergoing a debrief by FBI, CIA, and other intelligence officials since last fall at a secret location in the United States, said officials familiar with details of the defection who spoke on condition of anonymity. The defector is said to be a target of covert Chinese agents seeking to capture or kill him.

Among the information disclosed by Ling are details about the procedures used by Chinese leaders on the use of nuclear weapons, such as the steps taken in preparing nuclear forces for attack and release codes for nuclear arms.

Other secrets revealed included details about the Chinese leadership and its facilities, including the compound in Beijing known as Zhongnanhai. That information is said to be valuable for U.S. electronic spies, specifically for cyber intelligence operations targeting the secretive Chinese leadership.

Spokesmen for the White House, FBI, CIA, and Department of Homeland Security declined to comment on the case.

Other officials said Ling defected sometime in the summer of 2015 after his brother, once the senior administrative aide to former Chinese leader Hu Jintao, came under suspicion for leaking state secrets.

Intelligence officials said Ling, if confirmed as a legitimate defector in debriefings over the next several months, would have the most privileged information of any defector from China to the United States in more than 30 years.

“This is an intelligence windfall,” said one senior official.

The events surrounding Ling’s defection and his brother’s arrest appear to be part of a complex internal power struggle in China led by current leader Xi Jinping targeting hundreds of Party leaders and officials. Under the guise of a nationwide anticorruption drive within the Chinese leadership, Xi is said to be systematically removing rivals from previous administrations.

Officials said Ling Wancheng is being kept under tight security after U.S. intelligence agencies detected the activity of covert Chinese agents tasked with tracking down Chinese nationals sought by the government.

The defection was triggered by the arrest of Ling’s brother, Ling Jihua, a former presidential aide who secretly obtained some 2,700 internal documents from a special Communist Party unit he headed until 2012. The unit was in charge of storing and archiving classified documents.

Ling Jihua then gave the documents to his brother, who owns a $2.5 million residence in Loomis, California, near Sacramento. The classified documents were transferred between the brothers as a safety measure: They were intended to be used as leverage to dissuade Chinese authorities from taking action against Ling Jihua.

According to the officials, Ling Wancheng, the defector, kept the documents for safekeeping and was directed to release them to U.S. authorities in the event Ling Jihua were arrested.

China announced in July it was prosecuting Ling Jihua for disclosing secrets, taking bribes, conducting illicit sexual affairs, and using his position to benefit relatives. The former official is currently undergoing harsh interrogation in China.

Ling Jihua reportedly has been a main source for corruption investigations that helped bring down China’s security czar, Zhou Yongkang, as well as two senior military officials

Ling Jihua held the post of chief of the secretariat of the Party’s Political Bureau under Hu Jintao until 2012. The position is equivalent to that of the White House chief of staff, with broad access to the most sensitive details available exclusively to senior Chinese leaders.

In August, after the New York Times reported the Chinese government had asked the Obama administration to return Ling Wancheng, State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters Ling was not suspected of criminal activity.

“I’m not aware that he’s suspected of breaking any U.S. laws, but that’s a matter for the FBI or for other domestic law enforcement agencies,” Toner said Aug. 3.

Last month, Liu Jianchao, the Chinese official in charge of Beijing’s anti-corruption campaign, told Reuters that Ling was in the United States.

“As for the case of Ling Wancheng, the Chinese side is handling it and is communicating with the United States,” Liu said Jan. 14.

Secretary of State John Kerry met in Beijing with Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi last week and discussed “law-enforcement, pursuit of fugitives and their illicit money,” according to state-run media reports.

A State Department official said the Ling case was not discussed during Kerry’s meetings in Beijing.

The Chinese have looked at the case as a criminal case while the U.S. government is treating the defection as an intelligence matter, making Ling’s repatriation to China unlikely.

Michael Pillsbury, a China specialist with the Hudson Institute, said Chinese defectors with access to secrets are rare and usually need careful protection.

Pillsbury’s 2015 book The 100-Year Marathon draws on data provided by five Chinese defectors.

“Over the last three decades, Chinese defectors have been a vital source of insights about the secrets Beijing wants to keep from Washington,” said Pillsbury.

“Very few defectors wrote about it or gave interviews,” he added.

One important defector was Yu Qiansheng, an official with the Ministry of State Security, who defected in 1985 and revealed that CIA analyst Larry Wu-Tai Chin was a spy for China. Yu is the brother of current Chinese Politburo Standing Committee member Yu Zhengsheng, currently one of the most powerful leaders in China.

More recently, China’s leading dissident, the astrophysics professor Fang Lizhi, revealed details about secret internal debates in a book.

“Let’s hope more defectors come out to reveal Beijing’s secret debates,” Pillsbury said.

Former State Department China hand John J. Tkacik said Ling likely can provide new details of Chinese power struggles, such as the cases of ousted security chief Zhou Yongkang and imprisoned regional Party chief Bo Xilai.

“But the most important intel he could provide would be on the inner workings of China’s global financial strategies, the extent to which the Chinese have infiltrated both global financial markets, both with human assets and network penetrations, and have used these tools to fuel their incredible accumulation on wealth,” Tkacik said.
 

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Ling also could reveal details of China’s agricultural, industrial, and media purchases in the United States and how they fit within Beijing’s broader strategy to coopt the U.S. economy, Tkacik said.

“How much useful intelligence the Bureau can get from Ling will be a measure of how seriously the U.S. government takes China’s financial threat to the U.S. economy,” he added.

The first details of the Ling case were disclosed in two dissident Chinese magazines in Hong Kong, Qianshao and Chenming, in November. The London Sunday Times first reported the magazines’ disclosures, some of which were confirmed by U.S. officials.

According to the Chenming, China’s senior internal security chief Meng Jianzhu disclosed details of what he called one of China’s most damaging betrayals at a closed-door meeting of Party officials in southern China.

Ling Jihua was accused of carrying out the document theft some time between June 2012 and his arrest on July 20, 2015.

After the arrest, a special task force of Chinese security and intelligence agencies was formed to assess the damage. The task force finished its work in September.

As a result, 72 senior officials out of a total 85 officials in 19 offices under Ling Jihua were replaced and at least 55 people were under investigation by last fall.

The Chenming report said that as a result of the compromises, Chinese Politburo offices came under cyber attack for several months. Additionally, telephone and computer equipment was replaced over security concerns.

Ling Wancheng was said to have had unrestricted access to Ling Jihua’s office and is therefore suspected of making off with the classified documents, the magazine said.

According to Qianshao, the second magazine, Meng said at the meeting that Ling, as a gatekeeper of the Communist Party’s most important secrets, “stole a great many top-secret documents from the archives concerning the Party and the state, kept [them] in his personal possession, [and] ultimately got them to America.”

The documents were taken during a month-long transition after Ling Jihua was replaced in July 2012. The office he headed was in charge of protecting government and military secrets.

During an investigation of Ling’s residence, Chinese authorities discovered that 2,700 secret documents had been photocopied. Most of the photocopies had been produced after September 2012, when Ling Jihua was transferred to another government ministry.

The secrets included security passcodes and communications codes used at Zhongnanhai, blueprints, and command and control information used by Communist leaders and the State Council, the cabinet, and the Central Military Commission.

Launch procedures for firing nuclear missiles used by Party leaders and People’s Liberation Army leaders also were leaked.


China’s nuclear arsenal and the conditions for its use are among Beijing’s most closely guarded secrets. Very little information is held by U.S. intelligence agencies on how China would use nuclear weapons and when it would conduct nuclear attacks.


Analysts say the magazines’ publication of details on the Ling case appears linked to two current senior Chinese officials who reportedly have voiced concerns about Ling Jihua’s loyalty to senior Party leaders.

Wang Huning, one of the closest national security aides to current leader Xi Jinping, and Wang Qishan, the anti-corruption campaign leader, were said to have warned Hu Jintao that Ling Jihua was unreliable. The officials’ claims to have warned about Ling suggest one of the officials may have leaked the information.

According to Chengming, Hu Jintao suffered a stroke during a meeting on the Ling affair and was hospitalized. Hu was last seen in public in early May 2015.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Ling Wancheng, who lived in California under the names Wang Cheng and Jason Wang, was an avid golfer and executive of a golf management and financial firm called Asian Pacific Group, which owns golf courses in California and Nevada. He had lived in the Loomis mansion since 2013.

Efforts to contact an Asian Pacific Group executive, Li Shuhai, were unsuccessful.

The newspaper reported that two agents from the Department of Homeland Security questioned neighbors about Ling in the spring or summer of 2015.

Ling Wancheng was a former journalist for two state-run Chinese news outlets and later became a wealthy financial investor with a Beijing firm called Huijin Lifang Investment Management Center.

Real estate records indicate Ling was married to Li Ping.

Efforts to contact Ling Wancheng were unsuccessful.

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Ultra

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That's it! China is finished. The US now knows all the Command and Control System, communication protocols, method, and procedures for all of PLA's inner working, all their most sensitive projects...etc etc.

It is always scums like Ling Jihua who ruined Chinese civilization. China has historically suffered from traitors. Traitors had ended nations during warring era, and even dynasties, it is reason why China was ruled by the small bands of horse riding bandits like the Mongols, and the Manchus...etc

Its no wonder American can afford to provoke China in the SCS - because they hold all the secrets.
It will take decades for China to recover from this.

And this is also why I said China's political structure will be its downfall. When you have an authoritarian command structure, the one at the top that's corrupt can ruin the whole country. And this single guy just ruined it for 1.3 billion people by selling China's entire state/military secrets to the US.

To be honest, it really doesn't matter what we discuss in this forum anymore. China now has to start completely from scratch to be able to recover from this.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
No need to get hysterical. The documents were stolen in 2012, meaning they were 3 years old by the time they were given to the US.

Any codes contained in those documents would have been changed many times over by then, so there should be zero risk of US intelligence being able to use command codes to do any mischief.

The biggest compromise would be giving the US insight on operational procedures, the tactics and mentality of Chinese civilian and military leadership, and escalation thresholds for nuclear launch.

The damage is great, but not illrepairable.

This incident should serve as a much needed wake up call to implement a cultural change, where security is taken more seriously when it comes to the family and friends of high ranking officials.

Officials need to get it into their heads that family and friends getting stopped and barred from sensitive areas is not a sign of disrespect to them personally, and anyone who cannot make that shift does not deserve a security clearance.

There should also be tighter controls on what documents could be removed and copied, even by the highest ranking officials.

If this leak can prompt such changes, then its impact would be a net positive.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Some forumites would do well not to fall for media hysterics and hyperboles. Yeah, nuclear launch procedures sound very impressive, but take a moment and think about what that means, exactly.

If this kind of information could be stolen by the brother of an official, don't you think foreign intelligence would have grabbed it a long time ago? And if it really was valuable information, why would the CIA tell this to the media?

This is just a propaganda story, nothing more.
 

Hyperwarp

Captain
If the Sino-Intelligence services are so incompetent, clumsy, etc, etc that a Presidential Aide managed to pass ultra-sensitive information to his brother............well then.............what can I say....
 
That's it! China is finished. The US now knows all the Command and Control System, communication protocols, method, and procedures for all of PLA's inner working, all their most sensitive projects...etc etc.

It is always scums like Ling Jihua who ruined Chinese civilization. China has historically suffered from traitors. Traitors had ended nations during warring era, and even dynasties, it is reason why China was ruled by the small bands of horse riding bandits like the Mongols, and the Manchus...etc

Its no wonder American can afford to provoke China in the SCS - because they hold all the secrets.
It will take decades for China to recover from this.

And this is also why I said China's political structure will be its downfall. When you have an authoritarian command structure, the one at the top that's corrupt can ruin the whole country. And this single guy just ruined it for 1.3 billion people by selling China's entire state/military secrets to the US.

To be honest, it really doesn't matter what we discuss in this forum anymore. China now has to start completely from scratch to be able to recover from this.

That's the downside to "to get rich is glorious"! And China always had an overpopulation problem which exacerbates natural societal ills and personality issues. I'm sure some social psychologist somewhere have done a study of how overpopulation worsens egotism and selfishness in people.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
The classified documents were transferred between the brothers as a safety measure: They were intended to be used as leverage to dissuade Chinese authorities from taking action against Ling Jihua.

In my opinion, this is the most telling part in evaluation the severity of the breach. They threatened the Chinese government to release this information to the US authorities if Ling Jihua was to come under attack and they arrested him anyway. So how important were the documents? He's no doubt hanging upside down in a jail cell getting beaten by a wet belt buckle with rusty nails in it as we speak. Between this security breach in July 2012 and his arrest, over 3 years have passed, so the Chinese government knew for 3 years that he could reveal these documents and they didn't touch him... and now, he's arrested. That says that these documents have expired and they don't fear their release any longer. As Wolf mentioned, the codes are no doubt useless by now. But combat plans and escalation thresholds change as well based on military power and China's military strength today is a different beast than in 2012.

Just for trivia, Ling Jihua's son was killed in a Ferrari wreck with 2 nude women in the car dying with him (1 later in the hospital) in September of 2012. Ling immediately summoned the military police to retrieve the corpse in fear that they would identify the deceased as his son.

Also, Chinese defectors that have caused security breaches and tried to live under American protection have happened before. Never have they died a natural death. Ling Wancheng squandered the last chance to escape that fate when he went through with their plan after Jihua's arrest.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
The problem with nuclear Op-Plans and command and control systems being revealed to your adversary is that - now they know where to look for weaknesses - and it is extremely hard to change the whole system and starting from scratch. Every step in the procedures are now compromised because of the structural weaknesses that exist in every kill chain that could be exploited. Every component inside every step is also compromised. So now the adversary will be free to target every single component to stop the kill chain. Eg. Do PLA Rocket Force communicate using VHF or UHF? Knowing what type allows them to jam it maybe even just temporarily. But even stopping the kill chain just temporary is catastrophic. Because during a nuclear exchange - the one that launch late has their chance of survival drastically diminished - the adversary may even wipe them out before they can even launch.

Or do the Chinese president carry a nuclear football?? What's the security composition on this? Can it be compromise, or stolen, or ambushed? Now that secret is out it makes the adversary easier to figure out strategies to compromise it.

Or who do you kill to stop the chinese leadership?? Who can you threaten to stop the kill chain? Who can you BRIBE to stop the kill chain? Now there are just too many possibilities.

Another interesting thing that came out of this is that - the MSS apparently has multiple kill-teams in US looking for this guy. The NSA and FBI apparently got the wind of it and put him in a secure facility. Maybe even the entire Chinese NOC list is also compromised. Who knows!
 
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