BRICS & New World Order Thread

Serb

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I asked ChatGPT for some signs of declining empires in history, at the risk of a collapse, and here's what I got. 10/11th of those points apply for today's US except the "Population Decline" which is again maintained by immigrants of different cultures at expense of the social unity of the said country. I couldn't ask it if the US will collapse directly because the bot is heavily biased in the US's favor in an all-around way. Therefore I had to ask in a roundabout way. If you want to know how a specific point relates to the US of today, just ask me, and I could give examples.


Here is a more complete list of signs that an empire may be in decline or at risk of collapse:


Economic Decline:
A declining empire may suffer from a lack of investment in infrastructure and industry, as well as from the high costs of maintaining the military and funding wars. Additionally, the rise of other economic powers can challenge an empire's economic dominance.


Political Instability: An empire in decline may be marked by a succession of weak leaders and political instability, leading to a lack of clear leadership and direction.


Military Overextension: Engaging in numerous wars and conflicts can drain an empire's resources and manpower, making it difficult to maintain its military power.


Loss of Allies: As an empire weakens, it may lose support from its allies and partners, further eroding its power and influence.


Rival Superpowers: A declining empire may face competition from rising superpowers or regional powers that challenge its dominance.


Internal Division and Conflict: Internal divisions, conflicts, and political instability can weaken an empire, making it difficult to maintain its power and control.


Nationalist Movements: The rise of nationalist movements and demands for independence in an empire's colonies can weaken the empire and ultimately lead to its collapse.


Social Unrest: A declining empire may face social unrest, protests, and strikes, as people demand greater rights and freedoms.


Lack of Innovation and Adaptability: A declining empire may be slow to adapt to changing economic, social, and technological conditions, leading to a loss of competitiveness and global standing.


Declining Population: A declining empire may suffer from a declining population, which can lead to a shrinking workforce, lower productivity, and a reduced ability to project power and influence.


Environmental Degradation: An empire's failure to address environmental problems, such as pollution and climate change, can lead to ecological degradation, economic decline, and social unrest.


It's important to note that these factors do not necessarily occur in isolation, and the decline and collapse of an empire is a complex process that can be caused by a combination of internal and external factors.
 

Serb

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On the other hand, China is on the opposite spectrum in nearly all those signs, except the population. Funny now that you think about it.

It is clearly obvious that the US is a declining or even collapsing empire, while China is the rising one. 10 of 11 signs point to that.

It is also obvious that the US would possibly end itself in war, now Ukraine, and the war with China over Taiwan could make the US disintegrate.

All the large Western empires like the US collapsed in or right after a crucial war, like the Spanish, French, British, and now I think the US too.
 

BlackWindMnt

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I asked ChatGPT for some signs of declining empires in history, at the risk of a collapse, and here's what I got. 10/11th of those points apply for today's US except the "Population Decline" which is again maintained by immigrants of different cultures at expense of the social unity of the said country. I couldn't ask it if the US will collapse directly because the bot is heavily biased in the US's favor in an all-around way. Therefore I had to ask in a roundabout way. If you want to know how a specific point relates to the US of today, just ask me, and I could give examples.
After reading the description in the declining population point, it does seem to happen in the US with worker shortages so a lot of productivity that needs to be done isn't getting done in the imperial core and also don't forgot the empire is the complete area of NATO. So US, EU, AUS, south Korea and Japan. Outside of those the US is peaking and the rest is already declining.
 

Paradigm

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I asked ChatGPT for some signs of declining empires in history, at the risk of a collapse, and here's what I got. 10/11th of those points apply for today's US except the "Population Decline" which is again maintained by immigrants of different cultures at expense of the social unity of the said country. I couldn't ask it if the US will collapse directly because the bot is heavily biased in the US's favor in an all-around way. Therefore I had to ask in a roundabout way. If you want to know how a specific point relates to the US of today, just ask me, and I could give examples.
Another point to add is the "Banana Republic Measure". The world used to laugh at African Banana Republics who spent big money on arms and nothing for it's people. Today Africa as a whole is developing. Guess who are the New Banana Republics?
 

luminary

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Some excitement is expected at this end of the month. Rumor is Xi's much-anticipated visit to Russia will be
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. Lula's meeting with Xi, meanwhile,
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. The back-to-back meetings suggest some BRICS-related maneuvers may be taking place.

Lula's agenda will likely be primarily economic (Brazil is in dire need of investment and bilateral trade agreements from China), as his focus on national
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. However, Lula has also mentioned an interest in forming a
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with China and other nations (i.e. Indonesia, which negotiated the impressive Bali Declaration at last year's G20) to form a mediator's club representing the Global South, which could act as a political counterbalance to the rabidly anti-Russian G7. If China's position paper on the conflict in Ukraine was already difficult for the West to dismiss entirely, then a China with street cred, coming fresh out of the Iran-Saudi deal, backed by a well-respected group of bloc leaders, will be impossible to ignore.

As Lula's visit to China was announced months before the Putin-Xi meeting, this timing suggests the March 21 date is a deliberate decision so that Xi and Putin can establish consensus on key issues before Xi responds to Lula's overtures.
 
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