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Appix

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Yes. The Motor Sich thing was the big one. IMO trust is gone, however China will still "play" with it.

If Ukraine is serious about being seen as not a US puppet, then it can show that by its actions.

There are many ways of doing so, such as Huawei for 5G, open up infrastructure sales, increased R&D cooperation, military ToT, allow more farmland to be sold to Chinese investors etc

They want to use China as a tool to strengthen their hand in negotiations with the Americans. There is a huge risk that they will confiscate new investments in the same fashion as Motor Sich. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 

siegecrossbow

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China folded
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So the No2 of the US State department will meet the Foreign minister Wang Yi. China clearly folded on this as previously they proposed her to meet with the Chinese Vice minister of foreign affairs.

Loss for China as it is now confirming that the Foreign Minister is just a "junior". Expect more countries to demand the same treatment in the future. Dissapointing

Xie is in charge of the actual discussion. Wang Yi will presumably meet after the actual meeting for tea and crumpets. I think both sides compromised somewhat.
 

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Wonder what the Japanese would say if South Korea did this.
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There's in fact been another scandal this week about the food at the Olympic village. Previously all the food available were marked with where they came from and athlete were complaining that some of the food were marked as from Fukushima which they didn't care for. Japan in its infinite wisdom thought the proper solution to this isn't to get rid of just those food, but instead they removed all marking for where the ingredients came from for every food item. Olympic committee further adds that they will reveal the source of all the food served at the village after the Olympics was done.
 

nemo

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So the No2 of the US State department will meet the Foreign minister Wang Yi. China clearly folded on this as previously they proposed her to meet with the Chinese Vice minister of foreign affairs.

Loss for China as it is now confirming that the Foreign Minister is just a "junior". Expect more countries to demand the same treatment in the future. Dissapointing

It's actually not. Sherman will hold talks with fifth rank foreign affairs official. Wang Yi will shake hand with Sherman after the talk is over. In another word, it's just a pat on the head while the real substantive talks are with official junior to Sherman in ranking.

And Sherman will not get a chance to go to Beijing. In fact, no officials of Biden administration of substantial rank, if any, have visited Beijing proper. The highest rank envoy yet is John Kerry, and he has only reached Shanghai.
 

siegecrossbow

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There's in fact been another scandal this week about the food at the Olympic village. Previously all the food available were marked with where they came from and athlete were complaining that some of the food were marked as from Fukushima which they didn't care for. Japan in its infinite wisdom thought the proper solution to this isn't to get rid of just those food, but instead they removed all marking for where the ingredients came from for every food item. Olympic committee further adds that they will reveal the source of all the food served at the village after the Olympics was done.

If there is nothing wrong with food from Fukushima then they wouldn’t be afraid of leaving the labels on.
 

plawolf

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If there is nothing wrong with food from Fukushima then they wouldn’t be afraid of leaving the labels on.

I think it’s worse than that. The Japanese are deliberately playing politics to feed Olympians food from Fukushima to try to whitewash the nuclear disaster and ‘prove’ that food produced there is ‘safe’ to eat.

They tried first to get the bigger win by labelling it, so that they can claim, look, Olympians chose to eat food from Fukushima! So it must be good!

But after the backlash, they are removing all labels so people can’t chose to avoid Fukushima food, and after the event they will reveal they fed Olympians Fukushima food and claim that just because nobody died or grey a second head, it must be safe!

It’s pretty consistent with how they politicised covid and tried to spin that for petty political points.
 

siegecrossbow

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I think it’s worse than that. The Japanese are deliberately playing politics to feed Olympians food from Fukushima to try to whitewash the nuclear disaster and ‘prove’ that food produced there is ‘safe’ to eat.

They tried first to get the bigger win by labelling it, so that they can claim, look, Olympians chose to eat food from Fukushima! So it must be good!

But after the backlash, they are removing all labels so people can’t chose to avoid Fukushima food, and after the event they will reveal they fed Olympians Fukushima food and claim that just because nobody died or grey a second head, it must be safe!

It’s pretty consistent with how they politicised covid and tried to spin that for petty political points.

They do know that if some of the Olympians develop cancer several years later, it will attract unwanted media attention right?
 

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