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para80

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Are wash down systems present on Soviet/Russian warships?
Pretty much all warships have some sort of decontamination system, certainly any navy that expects to be affected by a nuclear exchange. So its safe to say ABC washdown systems are present on most, if not all Russian hulls.
 

banjex

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@Tam Does China plan to refit the 052B and 051C? I think it would make sense to upgrade them with the YJ-12 and HQ-16B/HQ-9B, given the 051B has already gotten such an upgrade.
 

Tam

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@Tam Does China plan to refit the 052B and 051C? I think it would make sense to upgrade them with the YJ-12 and HQ-16B/HQ-9B, given the 051B has already gotten such an upgrade.

You need to ask the Chinese Navy leadership for the right answer.

If you want my hunch, I would think they would be upgraded given the more tense situation China is facing, the question is the strategy of the upgrade and their details. Do you want to go with HQ-16B or HQ-9B?
 

banjex

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You need to ask the Chinese Navy leadership for the right answer.

If you want my hunch, I would think they would be upgraded given the more tense situation China is facing, the question is the strategy of the upgrade and their details. Do you want to go with HQ-16B or HQ-9B?

I assume they would go for HQ-16 on the 052B because it has the Buk which is the HQ-16's ancestor. And HQ-9 for the 051C in line with that ship's original role as an area air defence destroyer.
 

Tam

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I assume they would go for HQ-16 on the 052B because it has the Buk which is the HQ-16's ancestor. And HQ-9 for the 051C in line with that ship's original role as an area air defence destroyer.

Yes, they would match the missiles to the closest of what's already in there. The 051C presents a problem however, because the Type 346 Aegis like radars are used for guidance of HQ-9 missiles, and the 051C cannot fit those. Somehow you have to make the HQ-9 work with the Russian Flaplid radar that's already on the ship, which means retaining that radar or navalize the land based HT-233 radar just for the use of these two ships, or you have to create a special version of the Type 346 radar just for this ship. The easiest way is to bite the bullet and procure new S-300 missiles from the Russians and have the Flaplid radar updated, while the other Russian radars on the ship, namely the Top Plate and the Bandstand radars are replaced with their Chinese equivalents. Given that China recently bought S-400 missiles, that means they still have a current working relationship with the manufacturers of the S-400 missile systems who also did the naval RIF-M system on the 051C.
 

halflife3

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So far, is the E-2 Hawkeye the only AWAC aircraft to be in service? Have other nations (excluding USSR and China) tried to make an analogue to the Hawkeye?
 

azretonov

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So far, is the E-2 Hawkeye the only AWAC aircraft to be in service? Have other nations (excluding USSR and China) tried to make an analogue to the Hawkeye?
The E-2 family is the only operational carrier-borne fixed-wing AEW (Aerial Early Warning) solution at the moment. Though perfect solution for a CATOBAR carrier, it's not a traditional AWACS/AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning & Control) and anything from E-2 family below Advanced Hawkeye standard is far less capable than a full-fledged AEW&C solution, such as; the American Boeing E-3 & E-7/T; Russian A-50 & newer A-100; Chinese KJ-2000, KJ-500 & Y-8P; Swedish Erieye family.
 
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