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no_name

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Oil was cheaper maybe? For China with energy security needs there's simply more important and pressing projects requiring attention and money.

Also, the tech maybe there, but how many countries are really in possession of those technologies or had the ability and willingness to develop them?
 

bobsagget

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I would like to discuss the recent obcession with chinese foreign police station. If i am to believe the media china operates 120 police stations in the usa or roughly 2.4 per state. For a full time staffed intel op they will be between 40-80 people to roughly have control over a reasonable geographic area that is between 1-2 platoons. On the low end thats 4,8000 operatives. On the high end you are looking at 9,600 operatives in country in america alone. Thats closing in on a moderate size division of intel operatives in the usa alone. If this is true we have lost any future war already . By virtue of having such a large network of intel operatives performing Humint on domestic vips would be easy as hell especially if the operatives have anywhere near as much sway over the expat population like the media suggests lets for shits and giggles say only 20 of the operatives are involved in humint and have an averaged humintel net of 6 trusted people as 6 is generally the largest group a single person can easily and rapidly manage that adds another 14,400 operatives.

Now it cannot be understated all of the intel agents likely own cars , apartments , houses and even businesses. Now lets talk about my favorite website Alibaba. Alibaba is a deniable source if goods. Globally 3d gun builders order high pressure explosion proof pipes to make guns . People order good quality body armor off it (ex look at militech buffmen’s range has done great tests), and drones, tungsten bullet cores, along with chemical components.

Why does this matter. Those are all things used in covert operations. Operatives have no need to smuggle guns. They gan 3d print a reciver and buy the parts kit with no background check and have anything from an akm, ar15 to a mortar that chucks 60mm projs 1.5km . This means in theory they could have well equiped and supplied sof operatives who are hard to create a case against due to most of their orders being civilian and unrestricted in nature. Not to mention only 1 percent or less of all cargo entering the usa is even searched. So you might ask what could china do with 9,600 sof in america that can take it out of the war. Imagine war breaks out it is night time the pla forces suit up and are loaded out.

They carry 3 30 kg payload fixed wing vtol drones and 5 100kg fixed wing vtol drones . The 30kg have a rack that holds 8 2lbs efps charges , the other 7 are 2lbs of incendiary explosives ex napalm with wp and thermite. The 100kg drones have 75kg shaped charge warheads with incindiary components. Having seen the range on fixed wing ali drones lets say the 30kg drones have a 500km range with 4.5 hour flight time while the 100kg has a 1000km range with 6.5 flight hours. Both have inertial navigation radio back up and satellite nav. Lets assume each team has 4 people and is willing to drive up to 1000km away. That puts most of americas infrastructure in range. Pipelines ,refiners, storage depots power plants manufacturing centers etc.

That means there are 2,400 intel officer / sof spooky teams meaning there is 7,200 multi use 30kg drones and 12,000 100kg drones. So even with a 65 percent hit rate for the 100kg drone thats still 7,800 targets hit . A fatal blow on its own before you even have the 30kg drones hitting things like fire depts, warehouses coms, tv and news networks ,rail yards or heck even straight military targets that lack appropriate drone defense. Best part about the 30s is they can return to sender to be used another day meaning such attacks are persistant and will be compounded. After the first night the USA might attempt to do a security lock down . This will fail for the same reason the usa could not respond to covid . A divide between professional experts , politicans, and the publics paranoia and general insanity. You think conspiracies and folks get crazy now. Wait until folks see a true military operation and think its some UN plot or other general insanity.

As the sun rises many americans awake without power, without communication. There might be gun shots from criminal elements or just generally deranged citizens who have decided the end is now. In a bid to ease fears nat guard will be deployed presenting easy targets due to a lack of shorad in us inventories. Not only that but the USA lacks a good rapid and secure way of identifying people outside of social security numbers which well are compromised as hell and honestly hard to verify. State based id is patchy despite efforts to make a unified federal id standard ( true id) this program has had some states quit the program due to trump tying it to immigration daca and other bs so there is no universal standard . Once again this hinders us LEO and natguard units as it is much easier to compramise isolated states registeries and id systems and insert new or false identities . ( Back in hs we had kids buying fake ids from china to go to bars. 150 bucks and they scanned and worked this was way way back in 2009.) This alone will cause issues when combined with harassment of sof teams and drone attacks and shitty id systems and unruly people its only a matter of time before tragedy strikes and folks loose their cool and someone shoots someone at a checkpoint.
So lets say we are 1 week into this attack lets say by the luck of god the usa has eliminated half of the 2,400 operating groups still leaving 1,200 . At this point the usa is still dealing with something equivalent to an all bite no chill (purely offensive capacity) Taliban at its peak numerically. This is a shitty situation to have especially if your adversary is half way across the world and you have to manage existing military obligations.

At this point parts of the USA are starting to god down hard and fast. The crippled logistics and power network means chems for water treatment for drinking do not show up. Truck drivers slow down or stop vital materials slow, loss of power means people cannot work. Waste water management facilities shut down as their generators run dry Things are bad but they can get worse. Folks start dying en mass from lack of insulin heart meds, folks with mental conditions deteriorate, people likely start forming self defense units because there are not enough cops and there are more guns than people. 2-3 weeks everything is in full swing and the USA is bordering on a failed state unless someone pulls a rabbit out of their ass.

Keep in mind i did not even mention such other posabilities like loading up cargo ships with hidden cruise missiles . Given that the average chinese cargo ship is stacked 23 wide by 23 long that means assuming 1 missile per container you are looking at 529 missiles per ship. I dont think i need to explain why receiving over 529 missiles from 1 ship is bad let alone such a force can easily disable most of a coast on its own.

P.S. Remember how those ufos poping in and out of water around a few US destroyers were actually those neat chinese multi domain drones. If we cannot protect our warships within our coasts how are we expected to defend the mainland against smart and savvy attackers? If i am to believe the US media the next war has already been lost from the start
 

Sinnavuuty

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Does anyone have an article by a PLA commander/spokesman stating that they were increasing ballistic missile production considerably? I tried to find it in the "China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread" thread, but I'll have to read about 300 pages to find it.
 

Chilled_k6

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Stryker

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Is the US shifting TSMC from Taiwan to US alongwith the engineers and their families after cutting some sort of deal with China at the G20 summit? Do you think, once the shifting is done, the US will look the other way when China re-unifies the island, this avoiding us the scary prospect of WW3?
 

gelgoog

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If China invaded Taiwan the minimum that would happen is China would be sanctioned to hell and back. Just like they do with Russia they would cut any exports of any products where their companies or their IPs are involved in. Would probably include things like aircraft, machine tools, and semiconductors. The whole world economy would be in chaos.
 

davidau

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If China invaded Taiwan the minimum that would happen is China would be sanctioned to hell and back. Just like they do with Russia they would cut any exports of any products where their companies or their IPs are involved in. Would probably include things like aircraft, machine tools, and semiconductors. The whole world economy would be in chaos.
Do you think China has not already thought about this possibility? Do you think China is afraid? Pigs ass! Besides if Taiwan declares independence, or similar rhetorics egged on by you know who, China will not have any hestitation to use force to reclaim its own sacred territory.
 

charles18

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If China invaded Taiwan the minimum that would happen is China would be sanctioned to hell and back. Just like they do with Russia they would cut any exports of any products where their companies or their IPs are involved in. Would probably include things like aircraft, machine tools, and semiconductors. The whole world economy would be in chaos.
China's economy today is big enough there is only 1 thing and only 1 thing that can potentially stop China and that is WW3.
No amount of:
1. economic sanctions
2. political isolation
3. mass propaganda
from "the West" can stop China.
BTW I do not think the Taiwan issue, much like the war in Ukraine, is big enough to start WW3. Sure the Americans will cry, complain, provide weapons, and Loan money with interest. I feel bad for the Ukrainians, they'll be making debt payments to the USA for the next 3 generations. For example look at the British. It took them 61 years to pay off their WW2 loans to the USA. American aid is Not free money.
 

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