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tphuang

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Is BYD a one-bit company or does Didi have no problem with BYD using it trademarked name like that?
well in Chinese, BYD's nickname is Xiaodi, little Di, so calling it Didi is not an issue. Of course, I don't know what its English name actually is. I'm just translating the Chinese name directly to English.
 

bsdnf

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China is just having huge growth right now in export for AI generated short films and dramas. The margins on the exports are also a lot higher than domestic market.
Meanwhile, the AI short drama industry is facing massive layoffs after platform subsidies end. This industry has experienced the five-year cycle of the EV industry in just one year.

Absolutely Crazy
 

horse

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Anthropic will be the death of what remains of US industry.
The equal $ productivity gap between Claude users and Chinese model users is so big, if you don't switch, you're just choosing if you want to die from AI spending or die from being unable to keep up with companies that use Chinese model.

Once DeepSeek came out, it was over in my opinion, simple because of economics of the principle of diminishing returns. In fact, how these LLM are constructed internal, apparently we see the same concept in action where increasing compute power does not lead to more better model, but the efficiency of the output goes down. Hence, it has it own non-economic diminishing returns.

All this means is that once DeepSeek came out the game was over. American AI being in the hands of only a handful of private companies, will only compete among themselves for customers, who probably in the long run the biggest customer will be the US government. While China and could be most of everyone else, will take advantage of open source AI that they control and tweak themselves.

It is too painful for the Americans to admit that. So we get this story of AGI.

AGI my ass. A recent story demonstrates the folly of the AGI god. I saw a recent video that a city in China was using AI with sensors mounted on a top of a car, that would scan the road for defects like potholes. That was unbelievable! They fix potholes in China! Now, when the Americans achieve AGI ... will they fix their potholes!? We already know the answer to that, and we know logically that most of this AGI talk is total bullshit.

Notice how we never hear or read about the word diffusion anymore. No one should be unclear about that.

:p

Disclaimer. Although I believe American pursuit of AGI to be total bullshit, just saying crap to cover their asses, this AI boom is real.

AI will improve software, which humans use to improve productivity. Since the modern economy all runs on software of some sort, this AI boom will last for a while.

If this AI boom is a ten story building, then I would say we are at level 3, while the US stock market is at level six. But still a long way to go to reach level 10 of this building.

By the time the general economy reaches level 10 with AI usage, the American stock market probably be at level 20, while those derivatives at level 300 or more. Haha!

:D
 

temporary1

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Strange how nobody shared this here yet, since it's one of the biggest news these days

New benchmark dropped which actually reflect real world coding use cases and imo reflect my real world experience using them.

GPT-5.5 mogs Opus 4.7.
Open-source models way down the list.
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Description on how the benchmark works:
DeepSWE is a long-horizon software engineering benchmark that delivers four major advances over today's public benchmarks:

  • Contamination free: Tasks are written from scratch, not adapted from existing commits or PRs, so no model has seen the solution during pretraining.
  • High diversity: Tasks span a broad pool of 91 repositories across 5 languages.
  • Real-world complexity: Prompts are half the length of SWE-bench Pro's, yet solutions require 5.5x more code and ~2x more output tokens.
  • Reliable verification: Verifiers are hand-written to test software behavior rather than implementation details.
Existing benchmarks fall short on several of these axes.
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, the leading agentic coding benchmark, has tasks averaging just 120 lines of code to solve, and
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found its verifier misgrades agent outputs at rates of 8% false positives and 24% false negatives. Frontier labs are also raising growing concerns about
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By contrast, DeepSWE produces a sharper comparison of frontier coding agents. Models that appear close together on public benchmarks separate into wide, ordered gaps that match the differences developers see in day-to-day agent workflows.
SWE-Bench Pro benchmark is garbage
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Michael90

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Once DeepSeek came out, it was over in my opinion, simple because of economics of the principle of diminishing returns. In fact, how these LLM are constructed internal, apparently we see the same concept in action where increasing compute power does not lead to more better model, but the efficiency of the output goes down. Hence, it has it own non-economic diminishing returns.

All this means is that once DeepSeek came out the game was over. American AI being in the hands of only a handful of private companies, will only compete among themselves for customers, who probably in the long run the biggest customer will be the US government. While China and could be most of everyone else, will take advantage of open source AI that they control and tweak themselves.

It is too painful for the Americans to admit that. So we get this story of AGI.

AGI my ass. A recent story demonstrates the folly of the AGI god. I saw a recent video that a city in China was using AI with sensors mounted on a top of a car, that would scan the road for defects like potholes. That was unbelievable! They fix potholes in China! Now, when the Americans achieve AGI ... will they fix their potholes!? We already know the answer to that, and we know logically that most of this AGI talk is total bullshit.

Notice how we never hear or read about the word diffusion anymore. No one should be unclear about that.

:p

Disclaimer. Although I believe American pursuit of AGI to be total bullshit, just saying crap to cover their asses, this AI boom is real.

AI will improve software, which humans use to improve productivity. Since the modern economy all runs on software of some sort, this AI boom will last for a while.

If this AI boom is a ten story building, then I would say we are at level 3, while the US stock market is at level six. But still a long way to go to reach level 10 of this building.

By the time the general economy reaches level 10 with AI usage, the American stock market probably be at level 20, while those derivatives at level 300 or more. Haha!

:D
It’s too early to write off the US AI tech companies . This talk of AI as a fait accompli China won is wrong . Nobody knows how things will play out or which groundbreaking breakthrough will be achieved by either side. So it’s wayyyy too early to claim victory. We don’t even know what will happen tomorrow my CV bless years from now
 
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