Artificial Intelligence thread

Bellum_Romanum

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No, Chinese firms simply underinvest in pure NN research, they mostly focus on applied stuff and short-term results. For example, Microsoft Research Asia is based in Beijing yet produced many ground-breaking works - ResNet (most cited DL paper), Swin Transformers, etc. They also created LightGBM which is one of the most popular gradient boosting libraries now. So yeah, this shows that with enough investment Chinese researchers can and will create strong research papers.
The point you raised sort of affirms what I made in my most prior post about this topic. Risk taking nature also affects BUSINESS/INVESTMENTS from Chinese people that have the cash/capital but don't based on the apprehension that the R.O.I. may not be there at all. Isn't this one of the most frustrating thing that the CPC was admonishing its companies from actually doing which was TO INVEST IN SUPPORT DOMESTIC SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY to avoid the shit show its forced into. I mean, if it wasn't for the forced technology war that U.S. government initiated, these dumb ass Chinese companies would gladly keep paying UNCLE SAM Hundreds OF rather than developing its own capabilities.

There has to be a cultural shift and adaptability that must be fostered within Chinese companies rather than almost and always taking the road well traveled. Huawei is loved, admired, respected, and feared because they dared to do the things I cited.

Eat bitterness has made some of us trying to get along to get along. That's the attitude that a lot of the disillusioned Chinese elites, dreamers that have made their way out of China fuming against GenSec Xi. Why couldn't he just shut his pie hole and accept China's place and play as a subordinating role to the U.S. that way China need not go through this economic pain and readjustments/realignment the Chinese economy is undergoing. Not to mention the loss of capital and opportunities for these bozos to park their money in the west, place their companies in NYSE/NASDAQ S&P to access western capital, markets and status for themselves and their childrens sure way entry to U.S. elite schools. Let's not pretend and become blind that these are not the attitudes of these Chinese bozos.

Some of them have been hit in the head with the reality of the world and have been freed from the western flowery rhetoric that they have lovingly absorbed, romanticized since maybe they began to accumulate wealth. See BYTEDANCE founder as an acute example of this retardation.

I am already deviating from the main point from the subject matter of this thread so am going to stop here.
 

gadgetcool5

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China just has too few international software products, period. Forget AI, Baidu search engine only works in Chinese and they never released a search engine that can search in English. Meanwhile Google took over the search market for every country where it isn't banned.

Only ByteDance, Temu, Shein etc. went global and now? They are #1 in the world and ahead of any American companies in their respective areas.

Chinese software companies can succeed if they just dare to venture out of China. Even if the U.S., Europe, Japan and India persecute you there still the rest of the world.
 

xypher

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China just has too few international software products, period. Forget AI, Baidu search engine only works in Chinese and they never released a search engine that can search in English. Meanwhile Google took over the search market for every country where it isn't banned.

Only ByteDance, Temu, Shein etc. went global and now? They are #1 in the world and ahead of any American companies in their respective areas.

Chinese software companies can succeed if they just dare to venture out of China. Even if the U.S., Europe, Japan and India persecute you there still the rest of the world.
True, apps like WeChat or Weibo actually even actively discourage people outside of China from registering in them by making the whole registration and verification process very complicated if you're not in China, lol.
 

siegecrossbow

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True, apps like WeChat or Weibo actually even actively discourage people outside of China from registering in them by making the whole registration and verification process very complicated if you're not in China, lol.

Because they don’t want low effort trolling on those platforms. If they want to ban someone it better be a high quality troll.
 

BlackWindMnt

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not only is Huawei's AI business booming in China, it is also booming globally through AI cloud


Looks like MENA countries and EU are the focus here

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I could see Huawei succeed in MENA but the EU will be hard, i personally wouldn't give the advice to use Huawei cloud options for any EU company i would work for, just too much geopolitical risk. But i can see Chinese tech companies and developers use Huawei's cloud offering for their services in the EU that would make a lot of sense. Especially if they want to use their domestic tech stack and facilitate edge computing latency advantages for their MENA and EU customers.
 

Overbom

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Alibaba comes out with a certified banger of a paper. This, along with the AnimateAnyone paper they released before.. Alibaba is cooking something big behind the scenes

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Portrait Alive - Generating Expressive Portrait Videos with Audio2Video Diffusion Model under Weak Conditions​

We proposed EMO, an expressive audio-driven portrait-video generation framework. Input a single reference image and the vocal audio, e.g. talking and singing, our method can generate vocal avatar videos with expressive facial expressions, and various head poses, meanwhile, we can generate videos with any duration depending on the length of input video.
 
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