Aircraft Carriers III

bd popeye

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let me add this: for almost five last years I've been following the USN, and what I saw was its game changers LCSs, Zumwalts, Fords changing the game indeed

Jura I've been following the USN for 47 years..I served with the USN from Aug. '71 until August '91.

The ships you describe are "Game changers with glitches"...Now the LCS program seems to be turning around. But the others are still white elephants as far as I'm concerned. But I have faith that the situation will turn around sooner than later.

Five years of following the US Navy huh? Nice. How many Arleigh Burkes and Virginia class ships have been commissioned in that time? I'm not 100% sure but those ships seem to operating just fine. there are many other systems that have been placed in service in that short five years that are working. the shore based Aegis system in Poland and Romania come to mind. But with anything new there may be issues. And they have been or will be worked out. Yes they will.

All in all though the US Navy is the #1 Navy on planet Earth.
 
first one technical:
... there are many other systems that have been placed in service in that short five years that are working. the shore based Aegis system in Poland ...
I think you need to know by now they're two years late in Redzikowo, Poland (an automatic translation should work:
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if you didn't believe what I said)

as for the rest, I'm going to post some armchair-admiralling (probably tomorrow)

LOL anyway
All in all though the US Navy is the #1 Navy on planet Earth.
Go Navy!
 
one more technical (before the armchair admiralling post I promised, LOL):
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Five years of following the US Navy huh? Nice. How many Arleigh Burkes and Virginia class ships have been commissioned in that time? ...
three Burkes:
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commissioned in last five years
 
Jura I've been following the USN for 47 years..I served with the USN from Aug. '71 until August '91.

The ships you describe are "Game changers with glitches"...Now the LCS program seems to be turning around. But the others are still white elephants as far as I'm concerned. But I have faith that the situation will turn around sooner than later.

Five years of following the US Navy huh? Nice. How many Arleigh Burkes and Virginia class ships have been commissioned in that time? I'm not 100% sure but those ships seem to operating just fine. there are many other systems that have been placed in service in that short five years that are working. the shore based Aegis system in Poland and Romania come to mind. But with anything new there may be issues. And they have been or will be worked out. Yes they will.

All in all though the US Navy is the #1 Navy on planet Earth.
to elaborate on my statement you quoted

(it's Wednesday at 7:13 AM
let me add this: for almost five last years I've been following the USN, and what I saw was its game changers LCSs, Zumwalts, Fords changing the game indeed
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and commenting on what you said:

for me it's a question of what should've been done differently for the US to be even stronger now;

first option had been to forget those 'game changers = Fords, Zuwalts, LCS here', instead building more Nimitzes
Mar 31, 2017
... I consider the Nimitz class the ultimate supercarriers ...
more Burkes (the post right above), and
keeping (plus modernizing) the OHPs

second option had been to throw money at those 'game changers', to avoid for example Aug 27, 2016
my gosh Jeff No Funds Available for Naval Strike Missile Test on USS Freedom, Demo Stalled
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what in fact happened, though, is the USN was shrinking (I clipped this:
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out of
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and 'game changers' clogging the shipyards, as in At Bath, a destroyer’s keel is laid more than a year behind schedule
May 16
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just my thoughts from the middle of Europe
I'll keep watching
 

bd popeye

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Thanks Jura for you insightful post. I'm not as detailed oriented as you.

Despite the technological mumble jumble of the new ships not operating as they should...The USN is still as of this date the most powerful Navy on planet Earth...and the USN continues to full fill it's missions/commitments Worldwide.

It is NEVER my intention to argue or have long "discussions" with anyone. Thank you all!
 
Thanks Jura for you insightful post. I'm not as detailed oriented as you.

Despite the technological mumble jumble of the new ships not operating as they should...The USN is still as of this date the most powerful Navy on planet Earth...and the USN continues to full fill it's missions/commitments Worldwide.

It is NEVER my intention to argue or have long "discussions" with anyone. Thank you all!
Gerry, this thread is quiet LOL I do contentious threads, too,
Trade War With China,
China SCS Strategy,
stuff like that
 

Air Force Brat

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what in fact happened, though, is the USN was shrinking (I clipped this:
6afaea0f036379c093ec503f880f195c.jpg

out of
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and 'game changers' clogging the shipyards, as in At Bath, a destroyer’s keel is laid more than a year behind schedule
May 16
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just my thoughts from the middle of Europe
I'll keep watching[/QUOTE]

What happened was 8 years of Brother Obama doing his damnedest to punish the military and reward his liberal friends! its truth, its NOT political, its reality, and NOW, MR. TRUMP has it "Throttled UP< and AHEAD FULL!!!!

Mr. Trump agrees with you Jura, the Ford class will come up to steam! LOL
 
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