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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
how come there wasn’t a USS Barack Obama?
Are you trying to bait for politics?
First he left office all of what 3 years ago.
Second just because you sat in the Oval Office doesn’t automatically mean a Carrier gets named for you.
Despite claims to the contrary there is no actual tradition that Presidents get carriers named after them. It has happened but the amount of politics involved has been a turn off. Controversial.
Most of the carriers built until CV 40 were named for battles or Historic naval ships. The exceptions were three founding fathers Franklin as in Benjamin Franklin who also wrote poor Richards almanac in French Bonhomme Richard, Randolph who had been president of the continental congress as has Handcock.
after CV40 you get the Midway class with CV42 for Franklin D Roosevelt the first of the political names, yet he did serve as secretary of the Navy and was critical in leading world war 2. However most return to places or battles. CV49 goes to the Wright Brothers the fathers of powered flight. then you have Admirals Forestall and Nimitz. But after CV66 the politics in naming comes to the head.
John F Kennedy I don’t mind as much he actually served in the Navy, same for Ford. Eisenhower of course before his term in office was a General in the Army. Theodore Roosevelt never served in the military directly but he did serve in combat during the Spanish American war. George Bush Sr. Served in the Navy. Washington was the first President a founding father and a general. Lincoln saw the US though the worst war in its history. He also wore a uniform for the Illinois state Militia.
Carl Vincent wasn’t President he did push for the Navy but I think his should be controversial, as should Stennis. Both were democratic Senators. Truman and
(as much as I like him) Regan were Presidents who never served in the military either. They were political naming. Political naming has been leaving a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. Returning the naming system to what it should be honoring those that served or those places in history.

Barrak Obama would be a purely political name. no service other than as a first term senator who didn’t even complete his first term before getting the Presidency. A President whom’s terms may not be as polished and shiny as it may seem.

Doris Miller by contrast is a name that actually has some roots in history. He served in the Second World War and died in battle. The Navy named a Knox class frigate for him now decommissioned. He wasn’t some political points, He earned recognition with his life.
 
Jan 9, 2020
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Carrier Lincoln Days Away From Longest Deployment Since Vietnam War; In Hawaii Now
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CVN72 once again is a west coast carrier, arriving at San Diego Mon 20 Jan to conclude a 10-month deployment since lvng Norfolk 1 April. She left her old homeport of Everett WA in Dec 2011 for deployment & a 4-year refueling overhaul
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January 21, 2020
Commanding the carrier – a brief history of HMS Queen Elizabeth’s captains

I remembered just the one with the ship's car (not his name though, just the controversy)
 

Air Force Brat

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ok I did not mean to political bait anyone and it was just a question

I never realised carrier names could be so political Wow!

It is indeed a very political process everywhere Asif, and it is an honest question into the mysterious world of naming military vessels in the US, lol, I actually bear umbrage at the Murtha and the McCain. Master Terran I'm rather certain asif is almost as curious about that as I am, and your explanation was indeed very helpful.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
It is indeed a very political process everywhere Asif, and it is an honest question into the mysterious world of naming military vessels in the US, lol, I actually bear umbrage at the Murtha and the McCain. Master Terran I'm rather certain asif is almost as curious about that as I am, and your explanation was indeed very helpful.

In the case of the McCain It was named for three generations, John McCain Sr. And John McCain jr. were Admirals and then John McCain III who did serve in the navy, then was a PoW but became a politician.
Murtha did serve as a Marine but by then the whole political naming was common.
Milk Also served in the Navy. The ones that irk me are those who are only politicians.
Historic ships, Historic places, American Citizens, Hero’s I am fine with. But getting a major ship named for you because you had an office in the House, Senate or were President... that irks me.
 

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CHIEF OF JAPANESE AIR SELF DEFENCE FORCE AND POTENTIAL OPERATIONAL F-35B PARTNER VISTS HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH (13/1/20)

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