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Jura, the bottom line is that someone will make the final call. and that should be the Carrier Strike Group Commander. He's the one in charge . It is his job to make the final decision.
yeah I would've hoped they would let the sailing Admiral to make the decision during a battle, but now communications are like immediate so they could be sending orders to the CSG from the Pentagon
 

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U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Jan. 27, 2019) Airman Spencer Stevens attaches a grounding clip to an AV-8B Harrier on the flight deck of the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) for fueling the aircraft prior to flight operations. Kearsarge is the flagship for the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group and, with the embarked 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, is deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations in support of naval operations to ensure maritime stability and security in the Central Region, connecting the Mediterranean and the Pacific through the western Indian Ocean and three strategic choke points. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryre Arciaga/Released)


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U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Jan. 27, 2019) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) 3rd Class Johnithan Bush waits to launch an AV-8B Harrier from the flight deck of the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryre Arciaga/Released)

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U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Jan. 27, 2019) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) 3rd Class Jaime Vasquez signals on the flight deck of the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) during flight operations to launch AV-8B Harriers. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryre Arciaga/Released)

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U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Jan. 27, 2019) An AV-8B Harrier launches from the flight deck of the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryre Arciaga/Released)

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U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Jan. 27, 2019) An AV-8B Harrier launches from the flight deck of the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3). U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ryre Arciaga/Released)


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Yep! watching that Harrier come charging down the deck to launch, I know you hear Kenny Loggins "Highway to the Dangerzone" playing in your head, if you don't, well you're just not "connected" to your cerebral cortex sufficiently to be a pilot! sorry
 

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yeah I would've hoped they would let the sailing Admiral to make the decision during a battle, but now communications are like immediate so they could be sending orders to the CSG from the Pentagon

USN command staff have a greater degree of autonomy than any other Naval force in the world, when a Nuke boats Captain, opens his orders and shares what he intends with the crew, they are on the prowl, they have broad discretion in the how and where he will sail his boat, they have communications occasionally, and they have to come to periscope depth to send or receive most communications in the day to day ops of the boat..

they do have emergency buoys that can send an encripted message from the depths, but they save those for extreme emergencies, and they do have the means to call a boat up from the depths, but those are not daily combat patrol ops...

The Captain of a CVN has broad discretion as well
 
USN command staff have a greater degree of autonomy than any other Naval force in the world, when a Nuke boats Captain, opens his orders and shares what he intends with the crew, they are on the prowl, they have broad discretion in the how and where he will sail his boat, they have communications occasionally, and they have to come to periscope depth to send or receive most communications in the day to day ops of the boat..

they do have emergency buoys that can send an encripted message from the depths, but they save those for extreme emergencies, and they do have the means to call a boat up from the depths, but those are not daily combat patrol ops...

The Captain of a CVN has broad discretion as well
well it's started by me wondering about the new Information Warfare Commander in an Admiral's staff, I'm still interested

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now I read twice
Lincoln Carrier Strike Group to Deploy with Information Warfare Commander on Staff
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as I didn't know what that new Information Warfare Commander would do for an admiral, and I still don't know, actually the last paragraph sounds strange:

Shepard said the strength of his job is the ability to “help provide fused information so the commander understands what’s going on: you’ve got your intelligence picture, we call that battlespace awareness; his communications are enabling him to have a command and control of the forces around him and be able to communicate effectively, particularly with a high-stress situation when you’re under fire; and additionally that we can advise the commander on where he needs to operate based on the weather conditions, what’s going on there that we can help guide the ship in such a way that puts us in a position of tactical advantage.”
 

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USN command staff have a greater degree of autonomy than any other Naval force in the world, when a Nuke boats Captain, opens his orders and shares what he intends with the crew, they are on the prowl, they have broad discretion in the how and where he will sail his boat, they have communications occasionally, and they have to come to periscope depth to send or receive most communications in the day to day ops of the boat..

I once heard a SSBN skippers state.."When we deploy we will be the fifth most powerful military force on the Earth".
 

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 29, 2019) The Álvaro de Bazán-class Spanish navy frigate Méndez Núñez (F 104) prepares to pull alongside the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) to perform a replenishment-at-sea exercise. Abraham Lincoln is underway conducting a composite training unit exercise with Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12. The components of CSG 12 embody a “team-of-teams” concept, combining advanced surface, air and systems assets to create and sustain operational capability. This enables them to prepare for and conduct global operations, have effective and lasting command and control, and demonstrate dedication and commitment to becoming the strongest warfighting force for the Navy and the nation. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Matt Herbst/Released)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 30, 2019) The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) transits the Atlantic Ocean during a strait transit exercise. Abraham Lincoln is underway conducting a composite training unit exercise (COMPTUEX) with Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Clint Davis/Released)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 29, 2019) Sailors prepare to secure an F/A-18F Super Hornet from the "Jolly Rogers" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 103 to the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Abraham Lincoln is underway conducting composite training unit exercise (COMPTUEX) with Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Michael Singley/Released)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 30, 2019) Sailors assigned to the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) secure a P-25 mobile firefighting truck to the flight deck. Abraham Lincoln is underway conducting a composite training unit exercise with Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Gwendelyn L. Ohrazda/Released)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 30, 2019) A Sailor assigned to the "Sidewinders" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 86 maneuvers an F/A-18E Super Hornet on the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Abraham Lincoln is underway conducting a composite training unit exercise with Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Gwendelyn L. Ohrazda/Released)


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WASHINGTON (NNS) -- The Navy has awarded a contract for the construction of CVN 80 and CVN 81 to Huntington Ingalls Industries-Newport News Shipbuilding (HII-NNS). This contract award delivers significant savings to the government – exceeding $4 billion when compared to the Navy’s original cost estimates to procure these CVNs separately.

“Today marks a great team effort to drive out cost and maximize efficiency in government procurement,” said Secretary of the Navy Richard V. Spencer. “Focusing on optimizing construction activities and material procurement, the team was able to achieve significant savings as compared to individual procurement contracts. One contract for construction of the two ships will enable the shipbuilder flexibility to best employ its skilled workforce to design once and build twice for unprecedented labor reductions while providing stability and opportunities for further efficiencies within the nuclear industrial base.”

In addition to these savings, the contract includes ship integration costs of several modifications required to meet emerging threats including the F-35C Lightning II, MK 38 gun system and MQ-25 Stingray Unmanned Aircraft System. These modifications increase the lethality of the FORD Class, and represent an additional $100 million in savings that is in addition to the $4 billion, since these new capabilities were not included in the original single-CVN Navy estimate. Plus, these new savings associated with new capabilities increases to $200 million if installed in the ship before delivery, in comparison to installing after ship delivery.

This Fixed Price Incentive (Firm Target) (FPIF) contract limits the Navy’s liability and incentivizes the shipyard’s best performance. The contract guarantees a single technical baseline for both ships, which allows the shipyard to re-use engineering rollover products, minimize changes between the two ships and leverage economic order quantities for equipment and material procurement.

ENTERPRISE (CVN 80) is the third ship of the FORD-Class and the numerical replacement for USS EISENHOWER (CVN 69). CVN 81, not yet named, will be the fourth ship of the class and will be the numerical replacement for USS CARL VINSON (CVN 70). CVN 80 began advanced planning and initial long lead time material procurement in May 2016.
 
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