Aircraft Carriers III

Jan 9, 2018
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if in the future an engines for example takes in a flock of birds or is roughed up by shrapnels and if they then replace it on board after an Osprey delivers stuff, instead of just leaving the aircraft in a hangar, I'll be proven wrong
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Navy’s COD switch to the Osprey has started — what you need to know
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The Navy’s ongoing efforts to swap out its aging fleet of Greyhounds is going smoothly, even if the new souped-up Ospreys won’t be fully fielded until the mid- to late-2020s.

The switch at carrier-based fleet logistic squadrons officially kicked off on Oct. 1 and the effort was boosted on Nov. 14 by a Navy announcement that a study found replacing 27
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with 38
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tilt-rotor aircraft
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Those findings
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for a larger environmental impact statement. removing a key administrative hurdle from the Osprey roll out, according to Fleet Forces Command.

The Navy announced the transition in 2015 but several important decisions remain to be announced, including locations for the Osprey training squadron and the fleet logistics wing that will oversee the arrival of the aircraft across the Navy.

A workhorse of the Marine Corps, the Osprey can launch like a helicopter but fly like an airplane, but the Navy’s CMV-22B variant isn’t expected to deliver grunts to the battlefield.

Instead, it will be a top platform for providing what sailors call “COD” — carrier onboard delivery capability. The Navy’s Ospreys will be modified to maximize their ability to ferry people, , mail and spare parts from the shore to underway nuclear-powered aircraft carriers around the globe.

The reliable C-2A Greyhound has filled the role as the carrier Navy’s airline and cargo delivery service since Grumman began rolling them off the assembly line in 1965.

But now those aging aircraft have reached the limits of their service lives and need to be retired.

To better match what the Greyhounds can do, the Navy’s Osprey is configured with a larger fuel tank, more communications gear and a public address system in the rear section for passengers.

Construction of two Navy prototype Ospreys began earlier this year and they’re expected to start flying in 2019, with production models slated for delivery in early 2020.

Like the Greyhounds, the Navy plans to station a squadron on each coast. Today’s fleet logistic squadrons are located at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia and Naval Air Station North Island in California and the Pentagon wants to move the Ospreys there, too.

Like the Greyhounds, the Navy plans to station a squadron on each coast. Today’s fleet logistic squadrons are located at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia and Naval Air Station North Island in California and the Pentagon wants to move the Ospreys there, too.

Their first deployment is slated for 2021 aboard the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, with a complete transition expected between 2024 and 2028.

Today the fleet logistics squadrons fall under the
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. It’s headquartered at Naval Air Station Point Mugu, part of
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, near Los Angeles.

A Norfolk-based detachment has administrative oversight of the East Coast squadrons.

Because the Greyhound shares a similar air frame with the Navy’s airborne early warning aircraft, the wing controls both of their fleet logistics squadrons. For the same reasons, the Norfolk-based
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handles training for fleet replacement aircrews for both types of squadrons.

But the Osprey effort will get its own wing and training squadron.

According to OPNAV notice 5400.2265 issued on Aug. 6, the same directive which established VMC-30, both the wing and the training squadron will be located at North Island, too.

The Navy, however, has yet to officially announce the date the unit will stand up or even where it will be located.

In the meantime, both the functions of the wing and training Squadron will be the responsibility of another unit, according to the OPNAV Notice.

The Naval Aviation Training Support Group is co-located with Marine Medium Tiltrotor Training Squadron 204 at Marine Corps Air Station New River in North Carolina.

If the flow of Ospreys continues to North Island, it will bring in 23 tilt-rotor aircraft. There are 10 Greyhound CODs there now.

According to the environmental report, that should add 341 new personnel to the San Diego area. Counting their family members, the estimate rises to 750 people.

In Norfolk, the loss of the training squadron at Chambers Field would cut the total number of aircraft from 17 Greyhounds to 15 Greyhounds. That would drop the local military population by 126 personnel, or 277 people when family members are included.

If the Navy decides to move the standalone Osprey replacement squadron to Norfolk, that would bring in 20 tilt-rotor aircraft. In that scenario, the total number of aircraft at North Island still rises from the current 10 Greyhounds to 18 Ospreys.

But if the standalone replacement squadron ends up in Norfolk, the Greyhounds would all retire by 2026,with the entire transition of the fleet wrapping up in 2028.

Both bases likely would gain personnel and family members, with Norfolk garnering 54 sailors. That rises to 119 people in Norfolk if families are included.

For North Island, that means adding 161 sailors to the San Diego area, or 354 people if family members are included in the estimates.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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the effort was boosted on Nov. 14 by a Navy announcement that a study found replacing 27
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with 38
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tilt-rotor aircraft
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.

Those findings
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for a larger environmental impact statement. removing a key administrative hurdle from the Osprey roll out,
yeah once the Environmentalist realized that Ospreys don't use Coal for fuel and the Navy had long ago abandoned it as a fuel everything just smoothed right out.
 

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Two great article's about the relevancy of aircraft carriers in modern warfare. In my opinion the only danger for aircraft carriers today comes from the major military powers like the US, Russia, China and maybe a handful of other countries. Everybody else are pretty helpless against these platforms.

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PHILIPPINE SEA (Nov. 16, 2018) Ships with the Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group and John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group transit the Philippine Sea during dual carrier operations. Ronald Reagan and John C. Stennis are underway and conducting operations in international waters as part of a dual carrier strike force exercise. The U.S. Navy has patrolled the Indo-Pacific region routinely for more than 70 years promoting regional security, stability and prosperity. (U.S. Navy photos by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kaila V. Peters)

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Semi-native British English speaker here, and American military jargon is at times extraordinarily peculiar to me as well.

It also seems to be subject to "fashion trends", where somebody, somewhere coins a new buzzword for something for which a perfectly serviceable and long-established term exists.

"Long Range Precision Fires" (is that a new technology for the 21st century hearth?)

"Warfighter" (what on earth was wrong with "warrior" or "soldier" or "serviceman/woman"?)
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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what was the solution for the V22 for COD with regards to F35 engine transport? pallet or no pallet?
They use a special Skid on which the F135 sits.
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In summery.
Step 1. Remove power module from shipping container with crane.
Step 2. Lower module on to skid on trailer.
Step 3. Roll trailer to ramp of CMV22.
Step 4. Rub hands and stretch vigorously.
Step 5. Carefully whinch power module and skid off trailer into V22.
Step 6. Secure tie downs.
Step 7. Ready for take off.
 
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