Aircraft Carriers III

Jeff Head

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I'll be following what actually happens, but please

... what's your take, Jeff? the CVN-78 will be deployed for the first time in the year of 20..

(I was sorta surprised to see "Even with the delivery delays, officials said, the planned initial deployment in 2021 is not affected" in the article I posted in https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/aircraft-carriers-iii.t7304/page-117#post-416068 because while making my 2022 guess Jul 26, 2016 I was unaware of this info ... but I don't, and won't, second-guess, don't worry :)
I expect the Ford will go to sea for builder's trials soon, perhaps this fall, but short of some really major malfunction surely some time early in 2017.

The original schedule leading to its first deployment was to have the builders trials in the fall of 2016, then have a hand over to the Navy and to start the post shakedown availability (PSA) in 2017 while the first of class full ship shock trials (FSST) are planned for FY 2019.

According to that plan, the carrier’s first deployment would then take place in 2021.
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I expect the Navy can still attain IOC for first deployment in 2021. But, as I say, part of the price for pushing the envelope is that you are making the best estimated and calculations for schedule based on what you feel comfortable achieving with new technologies and all the testing that goes with it.

If they missed that by seveal months or a year, but still delivered all of this new technology and what it is going to mean to the US Navy before the end of 2022 even, I would still be happy. I'd be happier if it was earlier and still hope it will be. But lets watch and see what happens in that regard.

One thing I will not do with this project or any of the cutting edge new projects (like the F-35) is sit around like some of the detractors do, and be gleeful about every delay or issue that comes up. As I say, I have worked in the industry and know that when you are working on the cutting edge you are going to have some level of slippage and issue.

Few of the dettractors or genuinely concerned about the US military getting the absolute best, cutting edge technology and capablility available. To the contrary, most of them are tryoing to use any slippage or issue as a political slege hammer to try and get programs canceled or changed for their own political reasons.

I simply refuse to play those kind of games.
 

FORBIN

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Seriously no thread and mysteries !!!

Mission Arromanches 3, TF 473 definitely composed of :
Sure
- CVN Charles de Gaulle
- DDG Ross Burke class Flight I
- FFG Augsburg Type 122 Bremen class

And no sure but possible
- a FFG Aquitaine Class possible Languedoc homeported to Toulon,
- DDG Cassard same class
- a SSN Rubis Class
- a Replenishment Ship Durance class normaly Marne or Var

CAW :
- 20 - 24 Rafale
- 2 E-2C
- 2 Dauphin SAR
- 1 Alouette III SAR
- 1 NH-90 NFH for transport, log

The carrier battle group left to fight Daech


The Charles de Gaulle sailed Monday, September 19 at 18: 30 pm, crossing the passes of the harbor of Toulon to 19 h. His departure was accompanied by extensive security measures at sea and on land provided by the coastguard and marines. The carrier must participate in new strikes against Daech by the end of the month. It takes less than a week to rally the eastern Mediterranean, where it will operate.

The two foreign frigates, the German Augsburg (F213) and the American Ross (DDG-71) integrated into the French Battle Group (TF473 Arromanches), had set sail early in the afternoon, signing the start of this mission announced by François Hollande after the Nice attack on 14 July.

The frigate Cassard had preceded them in an hour passes Toulonnaises: however it is unclear whether it will be part of the TF473 on which the Navy has chosen so far not to disclose, for "security reasons".

The Charles de Gaulle, he was then still at dock being loaded cargo, sheltered behind his torpedo net. It will likely be accompanied by a nuclear attack submarine (Marine communicates only rarely the position of the latter), a supply ship and anti-submarine frigate - presumably a FREMM .

In July, Jean-Yves Le Drian, Hollande had announced the start of strikes against Daech between mid and late September. These strikes should focus on Mosul, Iraq's second city, still occupied by Daech.

For this mission, the Charles de Gaulle embark 24 Rafale, 2 Hawkeye radar aircraft, 3 rescue helicopters and, for the first time, a marine Cayman.

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FORBIN

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I saw this slide show on sina..I do not know how old it is. Does anyone know if the Brazilian carrier,Sao Paulo, is at all operational?

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Not completely look here my Friend

Your welcome it is a deck :p

I saw this slide show on sina..I do not know how old it is. Does anyone know if the Brazilian carrier,Sao Paulo, is at all operational?

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Not completely... look here my Friend

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/ce...s-reports-data-etc.t6627/page-146#post-416319
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Jeff Head

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Now THAT is what I am talking about!

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But between that one and the other head on shot, I still count only 12 Rafale on deck...the rest are Eternard.

I am waiting for the pic with 24 Rafale on deck! That is going to be something to behold!
 
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