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Naval Today said:
NUSHIP Canberra, the first of two Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) ships being built for the Australian Defence Force, has sailed on her final contractor sea trials before delivery to the Australian Government.

The ship departed Williamstown shipyard on 12 August as planned with the trials taking place in both Port Phillip Bay and off the southern coast of New South Wales before returning to Williamstown around the end of August.

Final contractor trials involve testing of the combat and communication systems along with some platform systems trials.
Director of BAE Systems Maritime, Bill Saltzer, said: “This is the last major element of a very complex and comprehensive test program to prove the capabilities of the ship and its systems prior to delivery to our customer.
“Getting this ship to this stage has been a collaborative effort between BAE Systems and the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO). Our two project teams have worked closely throughout the project and now we are in the home stretch for the CANBERRA.”

Aboard NUSHIP CANBERRA for the final contractor trials are BAE Systems and DMO project personnel along with a number of Royal Australian Navy (RAN) officers and sailors who will crew the ship once delivered, as well as BAE Systems subcontractors Navantia, Saab, L3 and Teekay.

The final trials also provide an ideal opportunity for a number of the crew to familiarise themselves with the ship following their training at the BAE Systems facility at Mascot, NSW, in which state-of-the-art simulation technology was developed and utilised to achieve technical competence in a cost-effective environment.

As well as demonstrating the ship’s capabilities, the trials will provide the team with valuable feedback regarding the effectiveness of the training program. The utilisation and extent of virtual training within LHD has been a new approach for the RAN and the feedback received from the crew so far has been very positive.

Mr Saltzer said work was also progressing well on NUSHIP CANBERRA’s sister ship, NUSHIP ADELAIDE: “In shipbuilding, there are always lessons learned on the first ship of a new class that can be implemented to achieve higher levels of productivity on the following ship or ships and this is certainly the case with NUSHIP ADELAIDE. The second LHD is coming together rapidly and is on track to be ready to start sea trials in the second quarter of next year.”

The 27,000 tonne LHDs are the largest ships ever built for the ADF and will be operated by the RAN. BAE Systems is the Prime Contractor for the project. The main subcontractors are Navantia for the platform design and hull construction in Spain, SAAB as the combat system integrator and L3 for the internal and external communications systems.
 
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the carrier obviously is the Giuseppe Garibaldi (551), the last ship is the Etna (replenishment ship), but in the middle ... I think a Maestrale-class Frigate on the left, a L. D. de la Penne-class Destroyer on the right
 

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in the middle ... I think a Maestrale-class Frigate on the left, a L. D. de la Penne-class Destroyer on the right
Yes, most definitely. A Maestral class frigate to the left and a Durand de la Penne class destroyer to the right.

No doubt bout it.

The Italians have the Cavour and the Garibaldi carriers, three San Giorgio class LPDs, two Horizon (Andrea Doria) class DDGs, two Durand de la Penne DDGs, three FREMM (Bergamini) class FFGs, eight Maestral lass FFGs, and then three Lupo lass FFGs as major surface ombatants.

They also have six corvettes and eleven patrol boats.
 
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Talking about hangar decks. I think the Indians may even have a bigger problem than the PLAN. I don't understand how the Soviets design their carriers.:mad: Most of the space in the hangar deck of the Vikramaditya is being eaten up by the two elevators and an outcrop. But then again this carrier wasn't meant to carry 16 MiG-29's but 12 Yak-38's.

One side of the hangar deck full of MiG's.

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This is what is left on the other side.

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At least here you don't have a situation were the planes are hitting the roof.:)
 
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AAARRRVVV.. Big Sixty from Dixie..ex-USS Saratoga (CV-60), is headed to the ship breakers yard in Brownsville Texas...Tis' a sad fate for any ship...

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NEWPORT, R.I. (Aug. 21, 2014) Tugboats pull the aircraft carrier ex-USS Saratoga (CV 60) under the Claiborne Pell Newport Bridge as it begins its final voyage from Newport Naval Station to a dismantling facility in Brownsville, Texas, the carrier's final resting place. The ship arrived in Newport on Aug. 7, 1998, after spending four years in storage following its decommissioning in 1994. Saratoga was the second carrier of the Forrestal class and completed 22 deployments in its 38-year career. (US Navy photos/released)
 

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Talking about hangar decks. I think the Indians may even have a bigger problem than the PLAN. I don't understand how the Soviets design their carriers.:mad: Most of the space in the hangar deck of the Vikramaditya is being eaten up by the two elevators and an out crop. But then again this carrier wasn't meant to carry 16 MiG-29's but 12 Yak-38's.

One side of the hangar deck full of MiG's.

At least here you don't have a situation were the planes are hitting the roof.:)
That one pic looks like eight Mig-29Ks in there.

Do not know how many are on deck at that time.

You have to give the Indians credit. They have an operational STOBAR carrier at sea with a full, operational squadron of modern, fixed wing aircraft.
 

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Hey I just thought of something.. soon 3 ex-US Navy carriers will be in the ship-breakers yard in Texas..

Forrestal
Constellation
and...
Saratoga


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is also under tow there now.
 

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That one pic looks like eight Mig-29Ks in there.

Do not know how many are on deck at that time.

You have to give the Indians credit. They have an operational STOBAR carrier at sea with a full, operational squadron of modern, fixed wing aircraft.

I only count six MiG-29K's in that first photo. I'm sure the IN will manage just like the PLAN will too. But these Russian carriers have some serious design flaws.
 
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I'm sure the IN will manage just like the PLAN will too. But these Russian carriers have some serious design flaws.
Well, the Indians are managing fairly well.

They have full wing of operational, naval Mig-29S already stood up, and a full squadron already operational on the Vikramaditya. They have also already launched the hull (without the island and numerous other systems) of their first indigenous carrier. So yes, they are moving along.

The PLAN is too. They have launched the Liaoning and seriously exercised it, and is building up its numbers of operational J-15s to operate off of it. I am sure we will see their first indigenous carrier building soon too.

As to the old Russian designs...of course there are issues with them, particularly when compared to the US nuclear carriers. But they also were not designed to do what US nuclear carriers were built for.

As it is, both the Indians and Chinese are using them to advance their game, and make pretty good due with what they have. They will move on from there to improved deigns in due course.

BTW, I think you are right about the six Mig-29Ks there in the one hanger pic.
 
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