Aircraft Carriers II (Closed to posting)
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asif iqbal
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Great pictures Jeff! I thought that was the 22DDH, for all intent and purposes it's looks like a size of a carrier!
One thing I love about the JMSDF is the camo on thier vessals that dark colour really brings the beauty of the ships out
All in all with these two and two Hyuga class and 3 Osumi Class JMSDF will have a 7 flat tops
Aussies have two Camberra Class and South Korea has one Dokdo Class with opition of extra 3 totalling 4
Russia will base its two Mistral Class in the far East, all in all the this region will have 12 flat tops 15 if f South Korea builds 3 more Dokdo Class, that's hell of a helo/aircraft fleet
While China and India are focusing on true aircraft carriers with the intent of having 3 each, 6 aircraft carriers in total
One thing I love about the JMSDF is the camo on thier vessals that dark colour really brings the beauty of the ships out
All in all with these two and two Hyuga class and 3 Osumi Class JMSDF will have a 7 flat tops
Aussies have two Camberra Class and South Korea has one Dokdo Class with opition of extra 3 totalling 4
Russia will base its two Mistral Class in the far East, all in all the this region will have 12 flat tops 15 if f South Korea builds 3 more Dokdo Class, that's hell of a helo/aircraft fleet
While China and India are focusing on true aircraft carriers with the intent of having 3 each, 6 aircraft carriers in total
The official JMSDF currently says it is capable of 14-16 helos, but that they only plan on 7-11 currently.
But, with the deck-edge lift, the larger hanger, and the removal of the CIWS from the bow to a sponson as opposed to the Hyuga, they have clearly prepared these vessels for the JSF and Osprey IMHO, and so the fixed wing numbers are mine.
Thanks Jeff. IMO a ship that large can carry easily 24 helos and at least 6 JSF. However, the crew accommodations do not allow for enough crew men maintain that larger of an airwing. JMSDF has rather luxurious accommodations for all hands.
...that stated I believe the JMSDF figures.
...that stated I believe the JMSDF figures.
I believe them too, and initially that is exactly the way it will be.
However, we also know that they are looking at buying a relative small number of F-35s, at least a small number if considered for Air Force use. But, with the capabilities of this 22DDH and the sister ship that will be built after it (24DDH I believe), it is not a small number if intended to be embarked upon such ships, and to maintain a training group for them as well.
We are just going to have to wait and see because it will be some time before the Japanese close an F-35 deal, and then a few years before they receive them.
In the mean time, that vessel is moving along rapidly, is very nice looking, and clearly MUCH larger than the Hyugas. Can't wait to see it launched.
Within twelve months of the first launch listed, we are going to see all of the following launched, outfitting and/or in trials:
- USS Gerald R. Ford
- HMS Queen Elizabeth
- JMSDF 22DDH
- INS Vikramaditya
- RAN Canberra
Those are five very capable vessels, and it is going to be exciting times for all naval enthusiasts.
I cannot remember a time when five such large flattops were all launched within a twelve month period.
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TerraN_EmpirE
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Guess the Navy read Jeff's book to.
asif iqbal
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Surprised this sort of thing has taken so long, if they can detect a incoming missile in the air and engage it, which is much faster then a slow moving torpedo shouldn't be that difficult, but it's under water
thunderchief
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Problem of anti-torpedo defense is not so much about detecting torpedo or even destroying it i.e. detecting coordinates of said torpedo close enough to destroy it . Main problem is what happens after detonation . Under-water explosion creates temporary blind zone for sonar in near proximity . What happens if enemy launches not one but let's say three torpedoes ? When you destroy one you will definitely lose track of other two for some time , unless your hard kill anti-torpedo defense system is not small and precise enough not to create large splash when disabling enemy torpedo and does not detonate it .
Btw , Soviets and Russians were tinkering with various hard kill anti-torpedo systems , this one is commercially available :
[video=youtube;KBpNNVuD4ik]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBpNNVuD4ik[/video]
Does that not go the other way as well? I.e. the blind zone will also affect the torpedoes homing in on the ship.
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