2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]
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Speaking of India this happened today after the news yesterday about ghost fleet moving Iranian oil to China even during the middle of this war:
Then Reuters got baited:
Iran's response is basically "haha no, get fucked"
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To be fair, it was the plan.
IRN is peacetime branch of mostly old ships. They were expendable by design.
IRGCN larger corvettes (which are really FACs by international standards, 300-600t Dst) were minimum viable force to give IRGC flotillas peacetime deterrence(otherwise they're small and you can bully them). Also minimum possible amount.
Both solved impossible contradiction between need for larger ships and aviation at sea by building expendable "carriers" out of refitted commercial ships.
"Real" Iranian naval power are shore batteries and small swarm boats, which number in 4 digits. Which is by default also an attritable force, but it will take thousands of strikes to wither them out.
Burning tanker off the coast of Basra (Iraq),
Turkey is a vast country, roughly the size of France and Germany combined, so it will take at least a decade for the layered AD to be fully established. Technically however, Sipers are already in place. Currently, there are 5 batteries in service, and annual production stands at 3 Sipers, 2–3 Hisar-As, and 6–8 Hisar-O+/RF. FYI, Siper output is set to double next year with a new production facility. Even now, only a handful of countries can match this production scale, although it will continue meeting yesterday's urgent needs for quite some time.
The two S-400 batteries aren't worth shit since even now they're not deployed; nor are they integrated into the national radar network (Standalone mode) or can be deployed to Turkey's overseas bases.
I share your view on the Gulf Typhoons. However, somewhat surprisingly some insiders say we shouldn’t be too concerned. Even though the situation is opaque right now, Qatari F-15s are doing most of the heavy lifting, not the Eurofighters. Omani EFs also haven’t been maintained for some time - which is why they’re being sold - so they’re not active either.
The first six “fighter-adjacent” Kizilelmas are about to enter service soon, equipped with GaN FCRs no less. Even if the first two years are spent on AF evaluation/feedback, training and IOC; by that point roughly two squadrons of Kizilelmas could be raised. On their own that wouldn’t be enough, but when paired with the Eurofighters they could meet the urgent requirement.
Integration of the MURAD-100A across the entire F-16B30/40M/50M fleet (~200 aircraft) is also set to begin next year, and the reported monthly delivery rate is surprisingly impressive. (The delivery phase is planned for two years and we’ve heard nothing but positive news so far, so you can guesstimate the scale yourself)
We are also confident that Kaan B10 will keep to the timeline and enter service by early 2029 at the latest (IOC ~2031), considering the IWBs will be software-blocked until fully certified.
As far as I understand, Siper right now is aerodynamic only. For ABM, Turkish territory is covered by NATO assets.
Which means against Israel it is non-existent(Qatar case).
Hisars are really nice systems, but they are IMHO exactly type of a system designed for 2010s threat environment. Against Israel you just need different capability sets.
Aka Siper (covered by ciws), preferably it's evolving form which doesn't quite exist yet.
I was more along the lines of emerging need to pull them out of reserve as a backstop second time. This time - till Siper can take over ballistic missile defense.
Israel establishes precedent after precedent, sparrowing allies and foes, and Israeli politicians already talk abt next big thing.
S-400 isn't really an ABM system, but it can do it to a degree, available, and it's better than having nothing at all.
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They're selling popcorn at the airport now? Again, spreading idiotic fake news. This is a video of a clash between young people and the staff of a cinema in Jerusalem last year.
For this one you wouldn't even have to fact-check; just using your eyes to look at a video would be enough to see that this is very clearly not an airport.
And that's just one of your videos that's wrong. You keep posting obviously fake news and AI slop. Just stop it already.
"B-But Iran should have moved closer to Russia and the PRC!?"
Yeah, exchanging western ZOG bots for eastern ZOG bots definitely would make a huge difference.
Ultimately Iran is all on it's own against Ivdea and it's vassals, namely the US and Gulf States.
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