2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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zyklon said:
Israel does not have the means to "Iraqify" Iran by itself, and requires direct American military support for achieving even lesser goals.

For the Israelis and the Israel Lobby, the nuclear issue offers a go-to casus belli when lobbying American politicians and their constituents.
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Oh yeah I agree with you, I just meant that its 'israels' dream or longterm goal, I am pretty sure they really tried to get trump to commit longterm but he took an easier exit, Yeah the nuke thing is more casus belli than actual objective since Iran is developing it, nor do they have a system? missile? to deliver it either.
Anlsvrthng said:
SAM systems can be manned by Chinese civilians/trainers on holdiay from military duty. Like the USA patriots in Ukraine.
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That is a biiiiig commitment
Frederik_Chopin said:
I am inclined to think that Iran hit more important sites than what is revealed. Israel only admitted damages as such in the tweet only after the extensive censorship failed because of satellite pictures.

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Oh definitely, there was that German journalist that said so as much that they were allowed to film or even SAY what places were the military sites hit on israel.
 
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As I said, Iranian missiles are much more precise that Western Analyst give it credit, you don't hit an installation like this out of pure luck. This is NOT the 1km CEP that people said that Iranian missiles have. Is also incredible that bypassed US defenses.

Despite what Bibi censorship wants the world to believe, they got hit and really bad.

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It is easier to have more accuracy in short range missiles. Their latest 500km range Raad missiles are likely highly accurate as you can see there.
Also, not all their 2000km range missiles are alike. I doubt the Scud derived missiles like Gahdr are as accurate as the Kheibar.
 
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tokenanalyst said:
As I said, Iranian missiles are much more precise that Western Analyst give it credit, you don't hit an installation like this out of pure luck. This is NOT the 1km CEP that people said that Iranian missiles have. Is also incredible that bypassed US defenses.

Despite what Bibi censorship wants the world to believe, they got hit and really bad.

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"really bad" - get real.

It's been well established (by Western analysts, there's no conspiracy) from the 2024 exchange that Israeli air defense is highly permeable and that Iranian missiles can achieve a high degree of accuracy. The issue is that the impacts
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Airfields can be quickly repaired. It's also clear from the most recent exchange that Iran couldn't meaningfully degrade Israeli military capacity and the Israeli people have a high tolerance for bombardment, as most populations do historically.
 
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"really bad" - get real.

It's been well established (by Western analysts, there's no conspiracy) from the 2024 exchange that Israeli air defense is highly permeable and that Iranian missiles can achieve a high degree of accuracy. The issue is that the impacts
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Airfields can be quickly repaired. It's also clear from the most recent exchange that Iran couldn't meaningfully degrade Israeli military capacity and the Israeli people have a high tolerance for bombardment, as most populations do historically.
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I am too tired of repeating same things after so many times to repeat here again (unless this is being said in sarcastic way)
''Israeli people have a high tolerance'
No they dont have high tolerance for anyone that can 'shoot back' at them, they literally had to ban flights for israeli natives so they wouldnt escape, they began escaping via sea to cyprus and by land to Egypt.
 
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tokenanalyst

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"really bad" - get real.

It's been well established (by Western analysts, there's no conspiracy) from the 2024 exchange that Israeli air defense is highly permeable and that Iranian missiles can achieve a high degree of accuracy. The issue is that the impacts
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Airfields can be quickly repaired. It's also clear from the most recent exchange that Iran couldn't meaningfully degrade Israeli military capacity and the Israeli people have a high tolerance for bombardment, as most populations do historically.
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They hit pretty important military and government buildings in Israel. Including what its seems the manufacturing facilities of Rafael. Trump was not joking when he said Israel took heavy hits.. What is more surprising at close inspection of the videos is that the missiles seem to be targeting the AD batteries and landing really close . So Iranians missiles have anti-radiation capabilities or someone in the ground was sending the position to Iran. Israel is not going to admit it but they could have lost some hardware.

They may have develop some tolerance to Hamas rockets but this was on another level that looks like they weren't prepare for. It was a taste of real regional power war.
 
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