2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

texx1

Junior Member
If that’s the case then that is the fault of Iran’s BM launcher design.

They should have followed the design of Russia’s Iskander launcher where the missile can be launched vertically, allowing it to be hidden deep in camouflage.

With Iran’s design they have to expose themselves to be able to fire.

Some of Iranian BM systems are liquid fueled which makes them more vulnerable as they have longer prep time. Iskander is solid fueled which makes easier to camouflage.

For mobile BM system, missile performance is only one part of the equation. Heavy TEL design is also crucial. Unlike Russia with MAZ and KZKT series, Iran simply doesn't have that much experience in designing and manufacturing TELs. I don’t think Iran is technically proficient enough to just copy Iskander.

Might be a good thing. If a thing like this happened under their leadership, then they were incompetent to begin with.

Hopefully they’ll be replaced by more aggressive, intelligent people.

One can hope. But we are talking about Iran here. Judging from its performance since the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, I am not optimistic.
 

daifo

Major
Registered Member
Surprised Iran still has missiles left

I never understand how they thought they can win a war with just long range missiles that they have no ability to reproduce in large capability in a war time scenario.. The only way that works if there is a nuclear warhead attached to it. Israel cnd just absorb or shoot them all down while suffering minimal human casualties. There is enough past conflicts that they are not too effective on its own. They are more of a annoyance or terror weapon.

IMO, DF alone are not enough in the PLA inventory, it was just temporary copium propaganda hence the current massive aviation buildup.
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member
Surprised Iran still has missiles left
That biggest danger is nobody knows how much missiles. It will required a US led, months long sustained air campaign to degrade that capability with support of the Saudis, Qatar and Kuwait. Is becoming a grinding war.
I have seem videos of IDF taking Iranian launchers,but some or most looks like are decoys.


Is a grinding war between Israel and Iran now with the hopes that US intervene.
 

delfer

New Member
Registered Member
I never understand how they thought they can win a war with just long range missiles that they have no ability to reproduce in large capability in a war time scenario.. The only way that works if there is a nuclear warhead attached to it. Israel cnd just absorb or shoot them all down while suffering minimal human casualties. There is enough past conflicts that they are not too effective on its own. They are more of a annoyance or terror weapon.

IMO, DF alone are not enough in the PLA inventory, it was just temporary copium propaganda hence the current massive aviation buildup.
If it comes to that, where Iran truly runs out of ballistic missiles, and is unable to produce them in large enough amounts, then their last and best option for defense is to goad the Israelis and Americans into invading them directly, head-on.

Attrite them on their own home front, similar to Palestine and Ukraine, and just slog it out using their terrain, tunnels and smaller scale military weapons like ATGMs, FPV drones, etc… to bog down the Israelis and Americans.

The west has air power, but as shown in Vietnam and Korea, underground structures and well-placed, well-constructed tunnels both large and small, and numerous in numbers, can protect you from even the most sophisticated Air Force, even with bunker busters involved.

Russia and China can deliver most of the supplies they need through from the north and east, and they can essentially turn this into America’s Ukraine. They may lose in the end, but will incredibly hurt the west in the process.
 
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