2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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gpt

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delfer said:
Iranian missiles don’t seem very impressive, tbh. They don’t seem to pack much of a punch, and they get intercepted way too easily.

In contrast, Russia’s Iskander seems to get through Ukrainian AD with little effort; American Patriots usually struggling to stop them, often requiring 5-15 Patriot interceptor missiles to take out just one Iskander, at least from what I’ve observed.

Plus they seem pretty powerful, pack quite a punch, and come with a variety of effective warheads, particularly the HE Frag. airburst variant, which turns everything into Swiss cheese and makes the HIMARS tungsten ball-filled warhead pale in comparison.
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Propellent mixture, grain geometries, exotic materials, nav and terminal guidance that doesn't sacrifice speed for accuracy and allows some margin for maneuverability. It's hard.
You need to build the shit out of the entire vertical industry. Academia to motors to test ranges.
They have the capacity to build something like 50 missiles a month but they aren't able to move to higher end ones nor do they have the ISR to use them as effectively as more advanced militaries.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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neutralobserver said:
They shouldn't have stopped with the BM attacks. Should have kept firing them to keep Israelis on defensive.
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Iran has 10 times more power plants and other infrastracture than whatever Israel has. Now that Israel has started, Iran will also start hitting their power plants. Once Israel gets a few hits, its economy is gone. As I said before, If Iran can maintain cohesion and morale, it has the strategic depth in population, economy, land area and military tech utterly make the living hell out of Israel. Lets see how much will Iran has to keep striking.
 
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delfer said:
Iranian missiles don’t seem very impressive, tbh. They don’t seem to pack much of a punch, and they get intercepted way too easily.

In contrast, Russia’s Iskander seems to get through Ukrainian AD with little effort; American Patriots usually struggling to stop them, often requiring 5-15 Patriot interceptor missiles to take out just one Iskander, at least from what I’ve observed.

Plus they seem pretty powerful, pack quite a punch, and come with a variety of effective warheads, particularly the HE Frag. airburst variant, which turns everything into Swiss cheese and makes the HIMARS tungsten ball-filled warhead pale in comparison.
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Someone correct me here because I'm likely wrong but could this be because Iskander is a shorter range qausi-ballistic system that stays within the atmosphere so it allows for more maneuverability paired with decoys, whereas the Iranian longer ranged missiles are easier to detect and when re-entering the atmosphere the maneuverability is inherently limited compared to a theatre quasi-ballistic?
 
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texx1

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Damage assessments at Natanz nuclear facility are coming in. In a UN Security Council briefing, UN nuclear chief Rafael Grossi has confirmed heavy damage at Natanz nuclear facility. Above ground section was destroyed. Power infrastructure at the facility was destroyed. The loss of power could damage the main underground centrifuge facility even though they were not hit in the airstrikes.

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U.N. nuclear chief Rafael Grossi told the Security Council that the above-ground section of the Natanz facility was destroyed. He said all the electrical infrastructure and emergency power generators were destroyed, as well as a section of the facility where uranium was enriched up to 60%.

The main centrifuge facility underground did not appear to have been hit, but the loss of power could have damaged the infrastructure there, he said.
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