2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

Michael90

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Iran never chanted death to America. "Margbar Amerika" is more in line referring towards the hostile nature of US foreign policy and Iran's opposition towards it. Death to America is a horribly translated iteration of it in order for the manufacturing consent towards the wider American populace.
I don’t know if you are being sarcastic or serious. lol.
iran has been chanting death to America and Israel for a long time time now since the Ayatollahs hijacked power
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In fact , they don’t just chant death to America or Israel but they even burn American flags IN THEIR PARLIAMENT while doing so . lol

Shows you how silly it is and what kind of mentality Iranian leaders have pictured in the country after decades of such propaganda. lol
 
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xyz4321

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Why don't you share with us some credible footage of these Indians that you claim to be in Iranian custody, and from there, you can convince us of their links to both the Israeli and Indian governments.
Plenty on previous pages.

If Indians are involved on the ground at Israel's behest in Iran, they're going to be..
Thanks for understanding how India can be involved.

You might want to look at a map: India does not even share a border with Iran.

You obviously don't know this, but there is actually a Muslim country bordering Iran that has openly
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for over a decade.

Not sure what your obsession with India is, but you clearly don't even know what a white elephant is supposed to look like in this case.
USA doesn't share a border with Israel either, but..
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I don’t think they allowed it, it’s just Iran has barley any AD systems left, let alone any able to decet the B-2
Source: trust me bro.

Isn't Iran under a internet blackout? Where did this footage come from?
Starlink is on.

On the other hand, regarding Iranian options, they have none. Now that the US have showcased their ability to strike the heartland unopposed, they can always just blow up critical infrastructure and leave. Why even negotiate? Israel has a unique opportunity to cripple one of their staunchest regional enemy and keep them down for decades.
Have you forgotten already that Iran also has the proven ability to strike the dead center of Israel? Indeed, why negotiate?

there isn't much the Iranian government can do to the US, the regime is too weak and corrupted, crippled by Israel practically on day 1, all empty big talks or propagandas to clam residents.

Iranian people would be in much better shape with a new regime.
So.. Tel Aviv got bombed by a cripple?
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TPenglake

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Yes, it’s easy for you to say since you are not Iranian and don’t live in Iran and have to suffer economic hardship and isolation from the world ,plus what makes it even worse is looking at your neighbors in the region like Gulf Arab states and even Turkey doing better than you. This is despite Iran having far more oil, gas and natural resources more than all of them and even more so a well educated, skilled, open minded youth population, who unfortunately often chooses to emigrate abroad for better opportunities. I’m sorry, Iran is punching wayyyyyy below its real potential due to the Ayatollahs Islamists and their stupid policies . Iran should be doing way better than Turkey since Turkey doesn’t even have the advantages Iran does(I.e vast abundance of natural resources ). So it’s easy to encourage them to carry on with their failed policies as an outsider since we don’t suffer any effects whatsoever . lol. Just like some people I see who often praise and encourage North Korea to carry on with their isolationist anti Western policies forever.lol They can do so because it doesn’t affect them whatsoever . I’m sure they won’t want to go and live there ,and I’m even more sure if they asked the average North Korean he will angrily tell them to fuck off with such a silly comment .lol
Chiding someone who supports a continued anti-Western stance for being an outsider cuts both ways when arguing normalization with the West is the best course of action. None of us have any context as to what's really going in the country, only what's gleaned from English sources.

However, one can ask, do you seriously believe the Iranian people chant Death to America because they feel like it every morning? Yes religious fanatics propagandize them to do it, but how did those religious fanatics come to power to begin with? What's the guarantee if Iran were to have a so called "liberal government devoted to tolerance and free ideas," that the powers that be won't recreate the conditions which lead to those religious fanatics coming to power and bring us all back to square one?

Moreover, what was the JCPOA other than a genuine effort from the IRI to normalize relations with the West? But we all know what happened with that agreement and here we are today.
 

GulfLander

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Cn has evacuated 3125 of its citizens (including from T41w4n) from lran, and also said to have assisted in transfer of UK, Indian, Polish evacuees.
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Defence Force to send plane to assist New Zealanders in stranded Iran and Israel
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Over 200 Filipinos in Israel, Iran seeking repatriation
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