2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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RobertC

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/sarc/ First mover advantage PM Starmer positions Britain to manage Iran's oil and gas fields
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Speaking on his way to the G7 summit in Canada, which starts Sunday, he said: “We are moving assets to the region, including jets, and that is for contingency support in the region. I will be clear-eyed in relation to our duties and obligations, and my duties as the prime minister of the United Kingdom.”
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FairAndUnbiased

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They can’t modernize though. That’s the problem. As we’re seeing now, sanctions are very effective. They prevented the Iranian economy from developing, from acquiring modern military equipment, from getting chips and electronics, and this is the end result. Indigenous development under these conditions will always result in inferior and inadequate equipment. The end result is that Iran went down the path of becoming a glorified rocket and drone force at the expense of every other branch. This is the end result. There will be no “Round 2”, its do or die. Under sanctions, it’ll take years to recover from this blow, and that’s time Iran does not have. They need to establish some permanent deterrence now or the regime is finished, if not now then in the future.
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Iran doesn't even have the police and ground forces to stop saboteurs. That is not a question of money anymore.

They could've had a large army with ATGMs, MANPADs, FPVs, light transports, wheeled artillery and mountain bunkers for defense and an ideologically motivated military police to weed out traitors and saboteurs. That way, it is guaranteed that whatever heavy assets there are, will actually be used.

This was the case with North Korea, Vietnam, and now Ukraine and Houthis - they're very difficult for enemies to infiltrate due to ideological hardening, so enemies had to slog their way through the ground forces, which have concealment, mobility and heavy short ranged firepower. That makes it very hard to attack them from the air and forces things into a ground war.

For Iran, this did not happen. This was supposed to be the Army + IRGC combo. The army was supposed to have dug in and be resilient to this sort of attack, while the IRGC was supposed to uproot traitors and enforce ideology. Both failed.
 
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Whether Iranian missile attacks were effective or not will be known only after the war is over. Don't forget that Israel is in military censorship mode.
 
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They can assemble the drones in your average garage. And you guys joke about the Iranian security services. This could happen anywhere.
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If Hamas waited just a few more years to do Oct 7 and utililized FPV drones and what not to the extent it is being done now, the attack would have been far more bloody. Tech has advanced significantly since then
 
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