055 Large Destroyer Thread II

[votran]

Range figure means different things in different missiles. Sometimes range means that system is still absolutely deadly and lethal to the outer edge of its threat envelope. It's absolutely the case for HQ-16C.
Sometimes, system is thoroughly optimized for range, that ironically it can extend reach literally at expense of utility: for example, the longer and slower your rocket somehow glides, the more cooperative target can manage to approach. This gives you a lot of Dmax.
Some of worse offenders in this particular case are CAMM/CAMM-ER - rather light missiles with slender aerodynamics, which go for all possible crimes to get range.

Now to our specimen.
Both ESSM and HQ-16(Shtil, Buk) are originally close-medium range systems. Both are quite large for their original ranges, but Buk is huge(SM-2 class).
ESSM mk.2 was a relatively more recent, thorough and range-optimized upgrade, while HQ-16C was still direct ascent all the way to the outer edge(even from VLS).
When HQ-16F did trajectory optimization(and longer batteries) - magic happened, range doubled.

Note that Russian Buk-m3 (or active Shtil) still flies same 70 give or take, because instead they now include 9A83s in Buk batteries for 150km capability(Soviet Union produced so far too many S-300Vs for Russia anyway).

still in anti-air warfare again enemy ASM , number matter specially when whole US/allied gang plan again PLAN is stealth/super sonic ASM spam + drones , china plan the same bonus hypersonic again them

so 052C/D , 055 all need dual-pack HQ-9C fast

unless PLAN want double escort ship number for each carrier (standard are 2x 055 , 4x 052D , 2x 054) which cost alot more

HQ-9C dual-pack is the right way to go ....

 

[TheWanderWit]

i still can't understand why they able to have a good stuff like ESSM block 2

quad-pack inside mk41 vls, 70km range just like HQ-16C and carry active-radar seeker can intercept super sonic ASM

the damn jap mogami class frigate only need 16 mk41 vls to overpower most of 054A SAM ability until all 054A/B can be armed with hq16EF 160km range

but still a damn frigate can carry x64 70km range sam with only 16 VLS still a huge anti-air threat .

HHQ-16 is still a much more capable missile than ESSM though, especially if we're comparing warheads. HQ/HHQ-16 is an SM-2 sized missile. There's a reason they were able to get such range out of it with HQ-16F.

 

[Blitzo]

From that clip of YJ-20 being launched, we can also see a moment where the 055 seems to have its VDS deployed, given the position and size of the opening, and the cable consistent with the same VDS system as equipped on other ships.

 

[as.karo]

The East Sea Fleet has finally received their first 055 DDG (albeit not yet with a pennant number). Potsed by @欧阳振我86468 on Weibo.

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What harbour (naval base) is that?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

What harbour (naval base) is that?

Likely Zhoushan.

 

[Ringsword]

I understand your sentiments but probably most of us here want something "newer" probably after the 32th-48th ship

I truly understand what this Latino/SA gentleman is saying and obviously not physically have 100 055's(would love it though) but the ability to build 100 055's(075's,085's etc) and have a government /leadership not elite-captured or a society rife with corruption/inequality,heart breakingly never to reach its full potential.We Chinese had a century of this painful bitterness and vowed never again.BTW the recent live firing of a YJ20 AshM from 055 DDG Wuxi was very good/satisfying as some internet commentaters have even said that all the impressive displayed weapons in Sept Parade were just display fakes -so ,so glad to prove them wrong-also curious to see PLAN fire a YJ20 not the older YJ series