055 Large Destroyer Thread II

totenchan

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One thing to consider is what threat does the SM-6 pose in an anti-ship role? That missile is a relative recently development and its anti-ship functionality was only recently revealed. As far as I am aware, the US Navy still posses SM-2 and SM-6 so using SM-6 in an anti-ship role is totally viable and they have a large stock of those weapons. SM-6 gives them a high supersonic long range anti-ship missile while is deployed across the fleet. The US Navy is not just limited to Harpoons and Naval Strike Missiles.
SM-6 has been known to have some anti-ship capability for almost a decade, so nothing new. To get any sort of range it is probably using a ballistic trajectory or something similar, which means its probably not too difficult to detect compared to an actual sea-skimming missile, and even if it hits the ship, SM-6 has a tiny 64 kg warhead. For comparison, HHQ-9 also has a anti-shipping capability, but with a ~150 kg warhead. I doubt either missile is used like that though, considering how valuable magazine space is on those ships.
 

leonzzzz

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One thing to consider is what threat does the SM-6 pose in an anti-ship role? That missile is a relative recently development and its anti-ship functionality was only recently revealed. As far as I am aware, the US Navy still posses SM-2 and SM-6 so using SM-6 in an anti-ship role is totally viable and they have a large stock of those weapons. SM-6 gives them a high supersonic long range anti-ship missile while is deployed across the fleet. The US Navy is not just limited to Harpoons and Naval Strike Missiles.
At least NSM has the range and LO advantage going for it, SM-6 is too short ranged for an adversary like PLAN. Placing launch platforms within SM-6 range means they are already within range of YJ12, YJ18 and YJ21. With the ISR advantage within the second island chain, PLAN won't even have a targeting issue against both the missile and the launch platform.
 

LanceD23

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055b would field new radar, gallium oxide, combining X, S, L band able to detect stealth plane 400km, conventional plane at 1200km.
first gen gallium arsenide
second gen gallium nitride
third gen gallium oxide.

china is only one country fielding gallium oxide tech. i think even US still using first gen .
 

Tomboy

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055b would field new radar, gallium oxide, combining X, S, L band able to detect stealth plane 400km, conventional plane at 1200km.
first gen gallium arsenide
second gen gallium nitride
third gen gallium oxide.

china is only one country fielding gallium oxide tech. i think even US still using first gen .
Wat, who said this lmao. We don't even have a confirmation on 055B and the current batch of 055 isn't even done. Shipborne radars literally cannot detect 1200km no matter how powerful because of the curvature of the planet your stuck with ~450km no matter what. FYI, US is starting to field GaN in the form of AN/SPY-6 but I don't think any of them are in serivce on destroyers other then the one single Flight III built.
 

LanceD23

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Wat, who said this lmao. We don't even have a confirmation on 055B and the current batch of 055 isn't even done. Shipborne radars literally cannot detect 1200km no matter how powerful because of the curvature of the planet your stuck with ~450km no matter what. FYI, US is starting to field GaN in the form of AN/SPY-6 but I don't think any of them are in serivce on destroyers other then the one single Flight III built.
They are testing the new radar on the test platform.

It would be deployed on the updated version of 055.
 

Tomboy

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They are testing the new radar on the test platform.

It would be deployed on the updated version of 055.
At this point basically everything you just said is at best speculation at worst completely made up. All we know is that there is a test ship and probably a new class of large destroyer/cruiser in the works but nothing else, 0 hard specs on the radar. Not it's band nor it's range or whether its GaN or GaO.
 

LanceD23

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No radar on any ship can detect 1200km afar on its own on this planet, period.
No updated/refurbished/super duper version of 055 can do it.
Let's not get as low as jai hinds shall we.
You mean the radar cannot detect the conventional plane in air 1200km?
That's what I wrote.
 

LanceD23

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At this point basically everything you just said is at best speculation at worst completely made up. All we know is that there is a test ship and probably a new class of large destroyer/cruiser in the works but nothing else, 0 hard specs on the radar. Not it's band nor it's range or whether its GaN or GaO.
Spec or no spec GaO is one generation ahead of GaN due tolerance of higher power. Do you disagree? Y or N type of question.
 

leonzzzz

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You mean the radar cannot detect the conventional plane in air 1200km?
That's what I wrote.
If you haven't noticed, the earth is curved.
Therefore, the furthest you can see depends on how high you are standing, up from the ground. This is called Earth curvature.
Since destroyers have a height limit, they cannot see further than 400-450km, no matter how capable the radar is, unless hostile planes are stupid and flying in from outer space,
What is this, kindergarten?
 
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