055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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asif iqbal
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Type 055 has different camo looks blue rather than grey
Those pictures appear shot in the early morning, where in one picture, the sun has not reached both Type 055 and the Shandong, and in the second, the sun has reached the Shandong but not the 055 yet.
asif iqbal
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Type 055 is definitely a bigger engineering challenge over Type 052D
JNCX is doing 1 unit per year
2017
2018
And 2019
DL popped two in 2018 with a simultaneous launch but that was it for next 18 months until they launched the 6th last week
so we could see 1 from JNCX in 2020
But DL will not launch any in 2020 at current rates unless they push
so we could still see 2 in 2020 or even just the one
Which would mean both of China’s top shipyards would average 1 launch per year for last 4 years and 8 units are in the water by end of 2020
it could mean that Type 052D ends and then China’s pours resources into Type 055A and does a blistering year where they do like 8 x Type 055A a year like they did with Type 052D in 2019
but certainly Type 055 is a heavy warship and is taking a lot of resources
Both American shipyards Bath Iron Works and Ingalls between then have averaged 2-3 Arleigh Burkes over 25 year period
JNCX and DL are certainly matching pace
JNCX is doing 1 unit per year
2017
2018
And 2019
DL popped two in 2018 with a simultaneous launch but that was it for next 18 months until they launched the 6th last week
so we could see 1 from JNCX in 2020
But DL will not launch any in 2020 at current rates unless they push
so we could still see 2 in 2020 or even just the one
Which would mean both of China’s top shipyards would average 1 launch per year for last 4 years and 8 units are in the water by end of 2020
it could mean that Type 052D ends and then China’s pours resources into Type 055A and does a blistering year where they do like 8 x Type 055A a year like they did with Type 052D in 2019
but certainly Type 055 is a heavy warship and is taking a lot of resources
Both American shipyards Bath Iron Works and Ingalls between then have averaged 2-3 Arleigh Burkes over 25 year period
JNCX and DL are certainly matching pace
Potential bottleneck on the Type 055 is the gas turbines. It requires four of them, while the Type 052D requires two. The Type 055 is the equivalent to the Burke in terms of power plant complexity with four gas turbines, but the 052D is more like a frigate in terms of power plant layout, with two gas turbines and two diesel engines. Frigates with two GT two Diesel layouts including all the modern Russian frigates, the Admiral Grigorovich and Gorshkov classes, and the Spanish Navantia F100 family of frigates.
Another potential bottleneck is the AESA radar sets which are very complex. But this works more into China's industrial production strength with electronics while it is the engine manufacturing that tends to be the weaker link. Lets see whoever makes the engines, I believe it to be Shenyang Liming who are also building those WS series turbines for the planes, will be able to keep up the pace. For now it looks like they are able to --- note the similarity of timing with the gush of gas turbine powered destroyers as with the mass introduction of WS-10 engines to the Chinese air force. It is like some breakthrough happened with the manufacturing and reliability of Chinese gas turbines in general that coincided and brought forth both events in two different areas.
If the 052D line ends, the large gas turbine production (QC280) would have to be doubled, if the Type 055 should match the shipyard output of the 052D on a one to one basis. Otherwise the building rates would fall assuming you maintain the same rate of QC280 turbine delivery, as you build all Type 055, from these two shipyards, even as the tonnage rises. Effectively you trade two 052D for one Type 055. In order to produce more surface warships if all your gas turbine production are dedicated to Type 055, this is where you reintroduce all diesel powered frigates again, this time the next generation of 054, and have other shipyards that are currently building 056s like Hudong Zhonghua and other CSSC shipyards, back into building blue water surface warships again.
China can crank out 10 type 055 each year if they want. If you consider China's shipbuilding capacity with that of Korea, but Korea has a much smaller population.
I see a lot of Type 055 and Type 052C/052D Destroyer threads.
1) From my understanding, the Type 055 is independent from the Type 052D (not an upgrade), and both will be built simultaneously. Is this correct?
2) If so, what military value is there from building both at the same time? Is the Type 055 basically a large destroyer, and the type 052D is a medium/small destroyer?
1) From my understanding, the Type 055 is independent from the Type 052D (not an upgrade), and both will be built simultaneously. Is this correct?
2) If so, what military value is there from building both at the same time? Is the Type 055 basically a large destroyer, and the type 052D is a medium/small destroyer?
Jura The idiot
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I see you've now asked the same question again, so I'll answer it on the assumption you're not a troll or a bot:
modern navies operate several classes of warships varying in purpose; since you said you're from California, you might see in San Diego vessels of the Arleigh Burke and the Ticonderoga classes -- in the 1990s both classes were being built at the same time
plus you may want to check Dec 28, 2019
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