00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

Nx4eu

Junior Member
Registered Member
I drew a graphic to better describe the issue, if anyone isn't familiar with ship hulls, just know that in my artistically stretched version of the research institute, in the lime circle, the ship needs to contract to form the stern. This leads to zero volume for anything other than ship machinery for the rudders and propellers.

The orange box describes where the engine room of any ship, even a carrier would be generally located, the 'citadel' If this were a conventionally powered ship, the island must sit near directly above this section of the ship in order for the exhausts to work. This is why the Queen Elizabeth has two islands, and cannot use 1. It has 1 island far forward for the intakes, while the second island isn't actually very far back, it actually sits in the middle of the ship for the exhaust uptakes.
1759902949886.png

The reason why ford is capable of a optimally far rear island, is because of nuclear propulsion, the reactor's don't require exhaust cooling, and thus the island is nearly completely free to be placed anywhere upon the deck.

The illustration below includes the ship required to fit a conventionally powered engine deck where the island is located on the research institute. The drawing below is 480m long, and simply ridiculous. Oh and I calculated the displacement for fun, it'd be 175,000 tons.
1759902705678.png
 
Last edited:

Blitzo

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Registered Member
I drew a graphic to better describe the issue, if anyone isn't familiar with ship hulls, just know that in my artistically stretched version of the research institute, in the lime circle, the ship needs to contract to form the stern. This leads to zero volume for anything other than ship machinery for the rudders and propellers.

The orange box describes where the engine room of any ship, even a carrier would be generally located, the 'citadel' If this were a conventionally powered ship, the island must sit near directly above this section of the ship in order for the exhausts to work. This is why the Queen Elizabeth has two islands, and cannot use 1. It has 1 island far forward for the intakes, while the second island isn't actually very far back, it actually sits in the middle of the ship for the exhaust uptakes.
View attachment 162173

The reason why ford is capable of a optimally far rear island, is because of nuclear propulsion, the reactor's don't require exhaust cooling, and thus the island is nearly completely free to be placed anywhere upon the deck.

The illustration below includes the ship required to fit a conventionally powered engine deck where the island is located on the research institute. The drawing below is 480m long, and simply ridiculous. Oh and I calculated the displacement for fun, it'd be 175,000 tons.
View attachment 162172

I would add that the Kitty Hawk class is an example of a ship with a relatively rear placed island/smoke stack in comparison to the position on the hull, but we can see how with the subsequent Enterprise, Nimitz and now Ford classes, the island gradually is able to be moved back for the reasons you described.

For the mockup, given how long the ship probably will be (adding on an additional bit of aft hull/flight deck as you depict well), the island and smoke stack will still be quite far back relative to the Kitty Hawk.

RxbCXkA.jpeg
 

Nx4eu

Junior Member
Registered Member
I would add that the Kitty Hawk class is an example of a ship with a relatively rear placed island/smoke stack in comparison to the position on the hull, but we can see how with the subsequent Enterprise, Nimitz and now Ford classes, the island gradually is able to be moved back for the reasons you described.

For the mockup, given how long the ship probably will be (adding on an additional bit of aft hull/flight deck as you depict well), the island and smoke stack will still be quite far back relative to the Kitty Hawk.

RxbCXkA.jpeg
Even have a look at the Kuznetsov, liaoning, and shandong, with their quite aftwards islands. Still within a reasonable distance from the center and most importantly, nearly straight above the engine rooms.
 

Shimakazerun

New Member
Registered Member
I drew a graphic to better describe the issue, if anyone isn't familiar with ship hulls, just know that in my artistically stretched version of the research institute, in the lime circle, the ship needs to contract to form the stern. This leads to zero volume for anything other than ship machinery for the rudders and propellers.

The orange box describes where the engine room of any ship, even a carrier would be generally located, the 'citadel' If this were a conventionally powered ship, the island must sit near directly above this section of the ship in order for the exhausts to work. This is why the Queen Elizabeth has two islands, and cannot use 1. It has 1 island far forward for the intakes, while the second island isn't actually very far back, it actually sits in the middle of the ship for the exhaust uptakes.
View attachment 162173

The reason why ford is capable of a optimally far rear island, is because of nuclear propulsion, the reactor's don't require exhaust cooling, and thus the island is nearly completely free to be placed anywhere upon the deck.

The illustration below includes the ship required to fit a conventionally powered engine deck where the island is located on the research institute. The drawing below is 480m long, and simply ridiculous. Oh and I calculated the displacement for fun, it'd be 175,000 tons.
View attachment 162172
In fact, the chimneys of the two islands provide air intake and exhaust for the two gas turbines respectively. The two gas turbines are placed directly below the two islands, that is, on the right side of the hangar.
 

Attachments

  • QE class.jpg
    QE class.jpg
    362.5 KB · Views: 19
Top