00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

Nx4eu

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Dimensions:
43.5-43.8m beam(Pretty accurate measurement from a good source)
~340m waterline length if estimated with Ford's length/beam ratio
12-13m draft(Apparently Fujian have ~13m draft but Ford/Nimitz cap out at 12m)
Assuming similar length behind the island compared to the Ford then flight deck could be 340-350m long as the island from the mockup is placed ~20m aft to the stern compared to the Ford.
Max flight deck width is 83-84m
So overall tonnage assuming 12.5m draft and 340m w/l length would be 12.5*340*43.8*0.62*1.025=118,298 tons

It seems from the looks right now Type 004 carriers are more similar in size to the proposed ECBL carrier than Gerald R. Ford class carrier.
The measured beam during construction from satellite imagery always seems to overestimate the actual beam. I remember during the shadongs construction, people were measuring the beam at 40.5 meters, while in actuality the shandong should have a waterline beam of 39m. During the Fujians construction, people were getting measurements of 41m, some even measuring to 43m, while the actual beam turned out to be 39.5-40m. Therefore to be realistic, I would rather underestimate the beam to be around 42-42.5m, not 43-44m.
 

Tomboy

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The measured beam during construction from satellite imagery always seems to overestimate the actual beam. I remember during the shadongs construction, people were measuring the beam at 40.5 meters, while in actuality the shandong should have a waterline beam of 39m. During the Fujians construction, people were getting measurements of 41m, some even measuring to 43m, while the actual beam turned out to be 39.5-40m. Therefore to be realistic, I would rather underestimate the beam to be around 42-42.5m, not 43-44m.
The guy seemed pretty confident that he eliminated errors due to angle, so much so that Captain was saying his data is pretty accurate. Shandong and Fujian are different as they had the soviet style hulls that tapered off at the waterline so while Shandong may have a max beam of 40m or so it tapered in at the waterline at only 39m, same goes for the Fujian. Type 004 is different as it no longer uses the soviet hull design and instead is more similar to American carriers hence the measured beam right now would be the final waterline beam.

A beam this wide also supports what we saw at the mockup facility, a deck width of ~83 meters needs a wide beam to keep stable.
 
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CaribouTruth

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Images of the carrier mockup courtesy of rational314159 on Twitter

Very strange developments, I can't make head or tails of this new thing. I don't think this is an "office space" like some have speculated.

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PLAwatcher12

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Images of the carrier mockup courtesy of rational314159 on Twitter

Very strange developments, I can't make head or tails of this new thing. The chimney is again shifted to the rear. I don't think this is an "office space" like some have speculated.

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Could it be possible there is a chimmy because their making another 003 carrier before they start the 004?
 

lcloo

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It will be funny if the funnel shape building turn up to house an electricity diesel generator set and/or cooling tower for a centralised air conditioning system for the whole test site.

Very unlikely they would install a diesel engine or a gas turbine engine in the test site. There is no such need thus there won't be anyy exhaust gas from the mock funnel.

Of ocurse, in reality electricity diesel generator would most likely located at ground floor due to its heavy weight.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Very strange developments, I can't make head or tails of this new thing. The chimney is again shifted to the rear. I don't think this is an "office space" like some have speculated.
Could it be possible there is a chimmy because their making another 003 carrier before they start the 004?

The problem with such inference is that how should the exhaust system even be explained/rationalized with the smoke stack/funnel being located so close to the stern, vis-a-vis the location of the propulsion and power generation systems in the ship's hull?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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You misunderstand, when China talk about "world class", they mean China has to be all over the world.

Chinese discourse only sees two countries: China, and Not-China, and China cant be behind Not-China in anything

No they didn't. That's basically saying that China is planning to emulate the US global empire, which certainly isn't what the Chinese government is aiming for. Where did that assertion even come from?
 
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