00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread
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Personal opinion for what it's worth is no.
Considering their need is sooner than latter, I would say not nuclear. Money saved could be spent on other assets like more new nuclear subs. The current needs are close to home so unlimited fuel is not a huge selling point.
Better a new ship inducted into service within 5 years than a project that exceeds the currents needs with a less certain time frame.
I think this video sums up the pros and cons
@5unrise , should you be bringing up pop3 in your new video like that? Or summarising SDF threads and posts for YouTube money?
I’m sorry mate, but this one just kinda rubs me the wrong way for some reason…
You should not assume that this forum is the only source I use, because it is not, and there is not really a logical basis for that assumption. I also reject your accusation that the motive for my video is money. I am passionate about the development of the PLAN, and this is why I make videos amid the torrent of either outright exaggerations or dismissiveness you find elsewhere on YouTube. It's definitely not worth the regular insults and accusations of propaganda if I was simply out to make a buck.
So, tdlr: leave me alone, and keep your unfounded accusation in your head
The issue is whether you are stating Chinese language sources by name in a manner that is easily accessible by others.
There is an active interest on the english language PLA watching community's part to not give too much close spotlight on various Chinese language sources in the grapevine, primarily because the greater the exposure and awareness they have in the rest of the world, the more likely it is that their activities will be more restricted and give us less information to work off.
The relative low bar of entry for people watching YouTube and the potential for much more exposure is why I agree that it is important to tread lightly as to which sources you name and how much detail is given.
Your passion for the topic or whether you are making money off the videos or not from it, is largely irrelevant. The exposure and naming of the sources, in a potentially high traffic platform, very much is the issue at hand, and I think GTI's concerns are more than valid in that regard
I accept the rationale for not naming the specific sources, and I will keep that in mind when making decisions out of my own volition in the future. I do this not because I have to, but because it is the right thing to do. However, I will say that GTI made an accusation that is completely separate from his concern of me naming the source. It was off-topic and a personal attack. I don't find that warranted, and I hope you can agree with that as a moderator.
That's between you and him, and if you insist on discussing it, do it between yourselves in PMs.
From my point of view from the perspective of a member, if the only issue was his presumption that you were doing this for money, I would say to just let it go, because the contemporary internet landscape for better or worse, means that people automatically hold a bias against most YouTube channels unless content is exceptional. There is a reason why so many people here are dismissive and actively hostile to posts where YouTube videos are posted from other creators who seek to "analyze" the PLA.
Unfortunately, having a tougher skin is part of the barrier of entry to giving oneself a more mainstream platform, and I do sympathize from that point of view.
In terms of GTI's post, I would say that if you are indeed passionate about PLA watching, then the most important thing to take away from his post, is that we all need to be cautious about giving away too many PLA watching tools of the trade and too much leading edge information to large traffic platforms.
That is something I have kept in mind as well for my activities on various platforms.
That is appreciated.
I hope you can understand the importance of keeping some things close to the community's chest.
More likely than not in my opinion. The crucial assumption I'm making is that the PLAN will keep building only 1 carrier max at a time. If they start building multiple carriers in parallel (something has gone very wrong with the security situation), then go wild.
Developing CVNs, especially starting out, is a long, risky, time and resource consuming project. The USN built Enterprise when it already had the world's strongest fleet and a bunch of conventional carriers to fall back on in case the project failed to deliver. The PLAN doesn't really have that luxury at the moment. If I were in charge of PLAN procurement and I had to choose between conventional or nuclear, I'd get at least one more conventional CV before spending upwards of a decade trying to build the first CVN and get it combat capable. If it's true that 003 was originally designed with steam catapults in mind, another conventional carrier may be designed with EM catapults from the start.
Of course, this doesn't mean the PLAN can't be taking serious steps in designing a CVN and developing the required systems for it, such as recruiting experts in the field at their shipyards or developing naval reactors. I'd even wager they probably have a bunch of CVN designs and proposals ready to go already. But until they get some operational experience with all the new capabilities 003 will bring (EM cats, J-15Ts, KJ-600, possibly J-35, etc), it would be unwise to commit to a single design, and thus begin construction, right now.