Jura The idiot
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I noticed the question, felt sorry for Eq... LOL good you told him
Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)
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Hyperwarp
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Any ideas what ordinance that is? Seems to be quite thick for the internal bay. I speculate that Su-57 bays are more shallow than F-22's only because the plane has a nice tapering towards the engine end and Sukhoi did not use the fuselage "super-structure" layout like J-20 and F-22. They stuck with the flanker like wing-fuselage layout which really robs the internal bay of depth.
The weapon seems to be air to ground and if it is indeed in Syria, weapons testing phases must have already been done back home in Russia years ago. So why use a valuable asset for basic air to ground when they know its operation parameters and have already tested it (assuming they're not insane enough to conduct initial weapons testing in an active war zone).
For above reasons, could this be a fake/photoshop from fan.
The weapon seems to be air to ground and if it is indeed in Syria, weapons testing phases must have already been done back home in Russia years ago. So why use a valuable asset for basic air to ground when they know its operation parameters and have already tested it (assuming they're not insane enough to conduct initial weapons testing in an active war zone).
For above reasons, could this be a fake/photoshop from fan.
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Now that is one design feature of the Su-57 that I admire, the staggered weapons bay design allows for the internal carrying of longer missiles like cruise missiles.
This feature means that the SU-57 is more suited as a strike aircraft than any of the current stealth fighters. While still maintaining its air to air characteristics.
How does aligning weapons bay allow for carrying longer missiles?
I can't understand. If anything, placing one bay in front of the other means you have sacrificed length because you're fitting two along the length of your aircraft. Aligning them adjacent to one another is better for bay length. BTW both bays are separated and there is no way to combine their lengths for any missile. They selected this layout because it was the only possible layout to do give the overall structure and placement of intakes.
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Not exactly, the 2 weapons bay can be synchronized to form just one really long weapons bay.How does aligning weapons bay allow for carrying longer missiles?
Impossible. Unless they're building the frame out of some seriously well engineered and placed dense, super alloys, there is absolutely no chance to create such a large cavity in a fighter that needs to turn with anything over a couple of Gs. That's like building a skyscraper out of cardboard. A weapons bay is essentially a void. The entire plane needs to be supported by internal frames that resist the enormous stresses during maneuvers. Even a small opening is difficult and sometimes technically beyond the abilities of entire nations. Pictures suggest you are wrong.
If the two can indeed be joined, why bother even separating them. it should just be two sets of hydraulically operated doors DIRECTLY next to each other. I don't think that piece in the centre (circled in red) can open the same way as the bays. Why add this complexity if it can "join" bays.
Very shallow bays combined with the suggestion the ordinance was dropped in Syria, suggests whoever made this up and spread it is lying and the photo in question is either faked or did not take place in Syria. Yet another piece of dodgy news to confuse people even further.
Jura The idiot
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whatever IT is, LOL it's not fan art: I followed the link from the tweet posted in
#2593 Hyperwarp, 30 minutes ago
and IT is official, appearing since 05:35 in the vid
and introduced as "cruise missile" by the GA Shoigu (interestingly, there's "multipurpose cruise missile" in the transcript
but he didn't say "multipurpose" in the vid; I think "multipurpose cruise missile"
многоцелевая крылатая ракета
might mean also loitering munition)
What I mean by shallow bays. Su-57 does not benefit from having the same depth as something like F-22 where the bay doors are the same level as bottom of intakes. Sukhoi decided to stick with the flanker layout and if you take a look at picture below, it demonstrates the difference in available space. Let's not forget the space needed for surface, structural elements, electronics, doors, insulation etc. Basically these bays can hold MRAAMs at most and that's about as much ordinance as they can handle.
