Hong-Kong Protests
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What the rioters want, what the anti-establishment camps claim, what foreign countries claim, and why the elections turned out the way they did do not have to actually match. You are falling for or propagating anti-China/CCP as well as slave mentality propaganda and spin.
That is a poor and weak local governance issue that is not inherently political. However in this case it does coincide with a weak and poorly led pro-China/CCP camp. Both the rioters and the local government can be incompetent, which leaves the "peaceful" anti-establishment groups the least bad choice.
That is a huge assumption which I think would be proven hollow if confronted by competent local authorities and a capable pro-establishment camp
My reply was to multiple posts by others as well as one of your posts. A special investigation into the HKPF's behavior is not necessarily a bad thing. Granting the rioters amnesty would be a very bad thing but that is by no means guaranteed. Each of these is a power struggle in and of itself, the struggle isn't over unless one side just gives up, even if they are rather incompetent.
Not sure what you are trying to say here.
Last time Donald Tsang bowed to them and did everything they asked him to do. The housing market ended up increasing 5 folds. The so called peaceful anti-establishment groups have already brainwashed two generations of youngsters. You mean that China should let them keep brainwashing another generation of youngsters. There is no peaceful anti-establishment but a group of cowards that manipulate colleges and high schools students to riot but send their own children away to keep them from participating in the riots.
Carrie Lam has already capitulated and completely rescinded the extradition bill. Did it bring peace? Not only it didn't bring peace but it actually emboldened the rioters. If you wanted to throw the police under the bus, I would ask who is going to keep the law and order in HK. Carrie Lam and her administration have done nothing and without the HKPF HK would have fallen a few months ago.
Unless the central government is prepared to send in the troops or meet every demands the rioters ask for, allowing a special investigation committee is probably the dumbest thing the central government can do.
Jura The idiot
General
Sunday at 9:53 PM
there's
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inside
(by the way that article comments on an amazing press release I linked Yesterday at 9:28 PM
now to finish:
before I go to bed, I multiplied by two what looks like a knockout, to get:
384---54---24 (LOL I know it doesn't add up to 452 at this point in time)
there's
347---60---45
inside
(by the way that article comments on an amazing press release I linked Yesterday at 9:28 PM
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Jura The idiot
General
Yesterday at 9:59 PM
"around 30 are estimated to remain in hiding"
according to
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam says police will delay PolyU entry as safety team makes final bid to convince radicals to leave with siege entering 10th day
it's
"around 30 are estimated to remain in hiding"
according to
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam says police will delay PolyU entry as safety team makes final bid to convince radicals to leave with siege entering 10th day
Jura The idiot
General
it's interesting to watch how Xinhua Yesterday at 9:28 PM and Glob. Times work around the elections results: they're none inside
No instruction from central govt concerning election: Lam
No instruction from central govt concerning election: Lam
airsuperiority
Captain
lol reading most of the comments here makes me laugh hard
the pro-china narrative here is so deep and thick, it's quite a fantasy land
it's really cute how most of the folks here aren't/haven't been on the ground but can have so much stuff to say and what they dreamed the narrative to be.
and the amount of insults hurled at those who aren't pro-china really showed the class acts of some members here.
anyways keep masturbating to the pro-china fantasies
must be so disappointed there's no "silent majority" hahaha (if you guys had actually paid attention to what's happening in HK and understand what the people are feeling instead of what you project them to be, you won't expect this sort of fantasy to be true), and some even went on to insult them. how typical. (go on and keep your head in the sand)
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i signed off here years ago due to the amount of bigotry for having a different opinion.
the groupthink here for sino-centric views is quite brainwashing. maybe it's time for some members here to stop thinking the world revolves around the chinese communist narrative.
for people here with some critical thinking, maybe it's time to stop getting absorbed by the pro-china narratives here and find things out on the ground for yourself or even challenge your own established worldviews
in 2014 on the 78th day of the Umbrella they said they'll be back. i left around the similar note.
now they're back, and im also here to enjoy the last laugh here.
i won't be back, and i look forward to seeing how the next 2 years will test the narratives of both sides and see who emerges the victor.
the pro-china narrative here is so deep and thick, it's quite a fantasy land
it's really cute how most of the folks here aren't/haven't been on the ground but can have so much stuff to say and what they dreamed the narrative to be.
and the amount of insults hurled at those who aren't pro-china really showed the class acts of some members here.
anyways keep masturbating to the pro-china fantasies
must be so disappointed there's no "silent majority" hahaha (if you guys had actually paid attention to what's happening in HK and understand what the people are feeling instead of what you project them to be, you won't expect this sort of fantasy to be true), and some even went on to insult them. how typical. (go on and keep your head in the sand)
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i signed off here years ago due to the amount of bigotry for having a different opinion.
the groupthink here for sino-centric views is quite brainwashing. maybe it's time for some members here to stop thinking the world revolves around the chinese communist narrative.
for people here with some critical thinking, maybe it's time to stop getting absorbed by the pro-china narratives here and find things out on the ground for yourself or even challenge your own established worldviews
in 2014 on the 78th day of the Umbrella they said they'll be back. i left around the similar note.
now they're back, and im also here to enjoy the last laugh here.
i won't be back, and i look forward to seeing how the next 2 years will test the narratives of both sides and see who emerges the victor.
Guys. Ignore the troll!
Engineer
Major
Yes, but it was you who were being a bigot at others for their different opinions. Your post is reek of projection, for example:
You: accuse others of group-think.
Also you: engage in group-think with your being "on the ground" excuse.
Such projection is very typical in the anti-Chinese establishments:
China haters: accuse China of being a dictatorship.
Also China haters: silence their opposition.
China haters: accuse China of spreading propaganda.
Also China haters: engage in spreading propaganda.
China haters: China/Hong Kong police are using violence.
Also China haters: use violence.
China haters: accuse Hong Kong police of rape.
Also China haters: ???
China haters have to virtual signal hard or else they can't cope with the cognitive dissonance.
Only people who drank too much kool-aid of Western Democracy would be that concern about majority. So you are projecting here.
Members here believe in truth and objectivity. Chinese "communist narrative" just happens to coincide with conclusions from these two values, not the other way around. Your criticism is like accusing everyone of being stuck in Chinese "communist narrative" just because Chinese "communist narrative" happens to say the Earth is round. False dichotomy.
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