Locals and foreigners have to register with the police near their residence.
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Locals and foreigners have to register with the police near their residence.
airsuperiority
Captain
sounds like the similar sorts of bureaucratic bottlenecks we hear everywhere. they need some major funding that actually gets to them and not corrupted away, and a major management overhaul.
n the small town where I live in SW Idaho, we have about 6-7,000 residents and a police force of 12 officers who do all of the patrolling.
Now, in the wider area, in the government entity/geography we call a "county," there are maybe 25,000 people and a Sheriff's department of 30+ officers handle the issues that are not within the "city" limits. The two Law Enforcement Agencies can also assist one another whenever required.
But all of the patrolling officers are armed...and in the Sheriff's case, they have Rueger min-14s auto-rifles and shotguns available in their trunks if needed. And that is before any SWAT teams are called in.
Thanks for the information...it is interesting to see how these various organizations operate in different countries.
solarz
Brigadier
Keep in mind that small towns and counties typically require less police presence than cities. NYPD has 34,500 uniformed officers for a population of 8.4 million. That's a ratio of one police officer per 240 residents.
I am really glad that you like my post, thank you.
About the question on 'family registration' and 'non-resident registration' that take up large part of officers' working time, you can refer to , which I think is fairly accurate. After reading that you may have a better understanding that why is it so important for the police.
About Chinese police officers' weapon, one should know that firearms are not obtainable by general public, unlike many countries in the West. Therefore Chinese police force is very cautious about the use of lethal force, because the cost of an officer shooting someone he should not shoot could be very large. There will be public outcry, condemnation from the press, official press and private free market press alike, investigation and inquiry from superiors, and eventually heads will roll, the responsible officer are sacked, his superiors, all the way from inspector up to superintendent-rank, get a dot in their annual assessments.
As a matter of fact, the threat to a police officer's life mostly comes from knives, sometimes DUI drivers, rarely firearms. Until the recent Kunming incident, most Chinese police officers go on patrol unarmed, and excercise great restrain when using force. Therefore China could be the only country that people dare to insult or attack police officers not because they can win, but because they know the officers won't fight back.
I have seen with my own eyes that a drunken driver tried to grab a SWAT officer's SMG, the officer just push him back and did nothing else, his colleagues were trying hard to calm the DUI driver. In the end that driver successfully grabbed the magazine of SMG and smashed it to the ground, after which he was cuffed and sent to the station. He was released when he get sober. All punishment handed down is credit deduction from his licence.
I can't say I like this, but it is happening in China. Fortunately our police force are not as afraid to use force as before, for the lessons taught in Kunming and other incidents.
About the question on 'family registration' and 'non-resident registration' that take up large part of officers' working time, you can refer to , which I think is fairly accurate. After reading that you may have a better understanding that why is it so important for the police.
About Chinese police officers' weapon, one should know that firearms are not obtainable by general public, unlike many countries in the West. Therefore Chinese police force is very cautious about the use of lethal force, because the cost of an officer shooting someone he should not shoot could be very large. There will be public outcry, condemnation from the press, official press and private free market press alike, investigation and inquiry from superiors, and eventually heads will roll, the responsible officer are sacked, his superiors, all the way from inspector up to superintendent-rank, get a dot in their annual assessments.
As a matter of fact, the threat to a police officer's life mostly comes from knives, sometimes DUI drivers, rarely firearms. Until the recent Kunming incident, most Chinese police officers go on patrol unarmed, and excercise great restrain when using force. Therefore China could be the only country that people dare to insult or attack police officers not because they can win, but because they know the officers won't fight back.
I have seen with my own eyes that a drunken driver tried to grab a SWAT officer's SMG, the officer just push him back and did nothing else, his colleagues were trying hard to calm the DUI driver. In the end that driver successfully grabbed the magazine of SMG and smashed it to the ground, after which he was cuffed and sent to the station. He was released when he get sober. All punishment handed down is credit deduction from his licence.
I can't say I like this, but it is happening in China. Fortunately our police force are not as afraid to use force as before, for the lessons taught in Kunming and other incidents.
That makes sense because in densely populated areas criminal activity can quickly affect a lot more people than in a sparsely populated area. This is not necessarily balanced out by the shorter distances as the difficulty in navigating congested areas, keeping masses of innocents calm and out of harm's way, and preventing criminals from escaping through crowd-created chaos compound themselves.
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Wow! What happened with the SMG incident is extremely lenient. The offender being immediately subdued/tasered/shot dead by police when he first goes for the gun would be the commonly expected outcome in the US.
This also reminds me of the incident where a group of chengguan beat up a lone policeman for trying to mediate a situation. Although that is probably not a "normal" situation that police have to deal with.
Considering criminals and terrorists probably have the advantage of surprise do ordinary Chinese police patrol alone or in groups? I would think that it makes sense for them to at least patrol in pairs if not threes although that makes the staff shortage problem worse.
solarz
Brigadier
I would like to add to that an article I read once. In addition to what HEIC said, many Chinese cops prefer not to carry firearms even though they have one. Because of the strict gun control laws in China, guns are extremely valuable in the black market. A cop patrolling with a firearm becomes a target. If the cop misplaces his firearm, or it gets stolen, the officer could face huge penalties. Thus, most cops prefer not to bring a gun on routine patrols.
However, I have to wonder why those cops don't have non-lethal weapons like police batons and mace cans.
That logic makes sense especially if police patrol alone.
Non-lethal weapons might help with subduing a drunk or a petty criminal but they are pretty useless against someone with the advantage of surprise and armed with even just a big knife or a golf club, not to mention several armed people whose primary intent is to hurt or kill the police.
Unfortunately I think the only solutions that would make a difference are having police patrol in groups and increasing their combat training across the board from hand-to-hand to melee weapons to firearms.