PLA Organization & Structure discussion

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  1. Blackstone
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    I agree with what you said. In addition, China no longer fears land invasion from great powers like Russia and the US (via Korea), so army groups, corps, and divisions are less useful for maneuver warfare and expeditionary force projections. The 8k UN Peacekeeping Force Xi Jinping wants to setup is tailor made to rotate PLA battalions and brigades for training.
     
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    That's an excellent idea. Good way to getting combat experience without starting their own war.

    When did Xi announce that he wanted to set an 8000 peacekeeping force?
     
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    He called it a police force and he announced it during the 2015 Parade speech.
     
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    China contribute the largest contingent of UN peace keeping troop,
    http://www.usip.org/publications/2016/07/26/china-s-troop-contributions-un-peacekeeping
    Last year 2 or 3 soldier die in Mali. It is real brutal war out there and the green troop of China learn the hard way that is no more fun and game, people get hurt. Yeah it is lesson paid in blood I guess the most dangerous attack is rocket and mortar attack. Now they are equipped it with rocket early warning radar
    Yes they learn a lot from this assignment see the video where they dug safety room under their barrack, combined with early warning it can save life .From Henri K
    http://www.eastpendulum.com/les-casques-bleus-chinois-au-mali-se-dotent-dun-systeme-anti-roquettes
    After the death of a Chinese blue helmet in South Sudan in May 2016, succumbed to his injuries while his armored vehicle was hit by a rocket that pierced the armor and exploded inside, the Chinese blue helmets recently revised The arrangement of their camp in Mali and the associated protection to prevent incidents of this type from recurring again.

    In a news report on Sunday's Chinese-language TV news channel CCTV-7, Chinese peacekeepers have learned that they have built a new protective wall around their camp. An anti-rocket early warning system was also installed.

    According to a Chinese military engineer, the system is capable of detecting the departure of rockets at a distance of 10 km, which allows a reaction time between 30 and 40 seconds, very valuable for the peacekeepers to reach Fortified shelters or their combat posts.

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    Such an early warning system should be composed of several parts - sensors, processing, communication and power modules, and one or more sound and light signaling systems.

    And in view of the shape of the machine shown in the reportage as well as the labels affixed above, it is believed to be the sound and light signaling part of the said system, and not the part of the sensors which Is the most interesting.

    But even if Chinese military journalists have taken care not to show the entire anti-rocket system, its performance, including the 10-km range, makes one think of a radar developed by the NRIET Institute of the group ECCC.

    The YLC-48 is a counterbattering radar used to determine the starting point of an enemy artillery fire by calculating the projectile's trajectory. Presented for the first time at the last Zhuhai Air Show in November 2016, this cylindrical radar uses two-dimensional active electronic scanning antennas. It operates in S-band and weighs only 90 kg, which allows it to be transported and deployed easily.

    This "individual" reconnaissance radar has a range of 10 km, and is capable of scanning 360 °. It can also be used to detect drones and helicopters within a radius of 25 km.

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    The YLC-48, the new "individual" counter-battery radar developed by the NRIST Institute.

    It is unclear at this time whether the YLC-48 is related to the early anti-rocket alert system that the Chinese peacekeepers have deployed in Mali, but it is the model that seems to be the closest in terms of performance described In the television report.

    It should be noted that the same NRIET institute also presented in Zhuhai another long-range counter-battery radar that looks like the EL / M-2084 from the Israeli anti-rocket system Iron Dome .

    This new Chinese radar, the SLC-2E , also uses active S-band scanning antennas, and can locate the start of a 155 mm to 60 km gun fire or a 100 km LRM rocket. The entire system, mounted on a mobile platform, can be deployed in 8 minutes.

    Like the "small" YLC-48, the SLC-2E can also monitor air targets. According to information from a representative of NRIET in Zhuhai, the system is able to detect a target of a 2 m² SER at a distance of 200 km.
     
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    at a distance of 200 km.

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    The SLC-2E counter-battery radar (Source: 议 军情 军情)

    In the case of Mali, where local forces have very little heavy artillery, and are rather equipped with rockets of small caliber (40, 80 or 107 mm) with a range of less than 10 km, a counterbattering radar As the small YLC-48 seems to be more suitable than the SLC-2E.

    Similarly, intercepting rockets costing a few thousand US dollars, or less, by missiles estimated at several tens of thousands of US dollar, such as the Iron Dome, in a temporary camp that is not made to last Seems to be a lasting and lasting solution.

    The Chinese seem to have found a pragmatic combination of solutions - an alert system that provides a response time of 30-40 seconds, coupled with fortified shelters - to ensure maximum security for the hundreds of blue helmets Mission on site.

    Finally, here are two videos broadcast by Chinese TV channels - the first shows the camp of the Chinese peacekeepers in South Sudan before and after the attack of 31 May 2016, and the second the reinforcement of protection at the camp of Mali.


     
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    Long expected, the third PLAN Marine Brigade is now here.

    The commission of the third PLAN Marine Brigade should come as no surprise since "with great power comes great Marines". The current two-Marine Brigade ORBAT simply does not have the manpower to fulfill all those new "historical missions" the PLA high command has planned for them. The question is really about which PLA ground unit will be transferred to the navy and how soon.

    The first PLAN Marine Brigade commissioned on May 1980. 164th Motorized Infantry Division, 41st Army Group Army transferred to the Chinese Marine Corps as the 164th Marine Brigade on July 1998. This new Marine Brigade is another army transfer, this time from the 77th "Yimeng/沂蒙" Motorized Infantry Brigade, 26th Group Army, Jinan MR/ Northern Theater Command.

    The 77th is a proud PLA outfit, commissioned by the CMC on December 1945 and participated in some of the major campaigns during the Chinese Civil War (The Battle of Luannan, the Battle of Laiwu, the Battle of Menglianggu, the Battle of Kaifeng, the Battle of Huaihai, the Battle of the Yangtze River, and the Battle of Shanghai). It also took part in the Second, Fourth, and Fifth campaigns of the "War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea".

    http://china-defense.blogspot.fr/2017/02/long-expected-third-plan-marine-brigade.html
     
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    Now they need to get rid of the blue Smurf costumes.
     
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    What's their reason for wearing them in the first place again?
     
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    Udapted with this Brigade and also locations towns, cities for HQ of Armies several errors.

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