News on China's scientific and technological development.

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    ... and I'll leave it after this:

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    https://www.ft.com/content/b55fc6ee-1787-11ea-8d73-6303645ac406
     
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    One thing that Tencent has in common with Facebook is that both companies are freaking out over Bytedance, and both their social media platforms are getting perceived being for old people. Yes, you know Boomers.

    Tencent resurrects social media app Pengyou and adds coat of gloss, Instagram and Tinder on it.

    https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/...ial-app-facebook-instagram-and-tinder-wrapped

    Tencent’s resurrected social app is Facebook, Instagram and Tinder wrapped into one
    The Chinese giant behind WeChat is quietly trialling a revamped version of Pengyou as it faces competition from ByteDance and others for teenage users
     
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    News of dubious technical achievement? I tend to think game beating AIs to be much like Formula One. They don't have direct benefits in pushing the envelope of automotive technology, but they represent a strong exercise for the engineers that will someday do.

    Google has been trying to get Alpha Go to do something much more complex than Chess or Go, resulting in Deepmind creating Alpha Star to master the game Starcraft II which is an RTS game.

    https://deepmind.com/blog/article/alphastar-mastering-real-time-strategy-game-starcraft-ii

    With that in mind, MOBAs like Dota 2 could be next.

    https://medium.com/@t2thompson/are-mobas-the-future-of-ai-research-de17000d2210

    https://openai.com/blog/openai-five/

    And this is where Tencent, who already owns League of Legends, comes in, using its own MOBA in Asia and China, known as Honor of Kings, or Arena of Valor in international markets, available in the Apple App Store and Google Play Store by the way.

    https://venturebeat.com/2019/12/23/...ing-ai-system-beats-99-81-of-human-opponents/

    Tencent details how its MOBA-playing AI system beats 99.81% of human opponents
     
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    Chess is one thing for a learning algorithm to dominate in. Go is a totally different problem. With computer games, don't we already have bots that can absolutely dominate any human player for games like Starcraft? I'm not sure how the achievement measures up against a game like Go.
     
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    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/happens-internet-gets-less-american-174355587.html?guccounter=1

    The irony is "less American" means the US has less control therefore more freedom for the rest of the world. A lot of articles lately over the US fearing Chinese apps. Americans created apps to collect data so they're upset not because China is using the internet for some new crime. They're upset China is doing what they're doing. Remember when the US was bragging that they can spy on the President of China because his wife was seen carrying an iPhone. Now the US wants to world stop buying Chinese smartphones because they can be used as spying devices. Just look at the media where they look at themselves as the guardians of free speech. They hate the internet because they don't control the flow of information anymore which is also why they're getting killed by the internet. Notice how there use to be comment sections in most media outlets? Now they're rare. They don't want regular people daring to question what they put out there hence why comment section to news sites are disappearing. It use to be like before the era of electronic media, being an entertainer was universally seen a lowly profession. They had to be live there to face their audience and hecklers who could ruin you. They didn't make a lot of money. But then electronic media came along where the entertainer could separate from the audience and control the message without any hecklers. The media could tell you that Britney Spears was a fantastic singer and there were no one to say otherwise. That's why entertainers can make millions where they never could before. But now comes the internet. The heckler is reborn and now can have a say like they use to and the media doesn't like it. Less American means they aren't in control of the message anymore.
     
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    Commercial games need odds stacked up for bots such as having more units or more powerful units --- in effect they allow the bot to cheat -- to achieve a higher difficulty level for the player. But players still beat them and the bot is still supposed to be beaten or no one is going to play your game.

    This time however its different, you are designing an AI to intentionally win over the best players with equal assets on both sides.

    Variations possible on Starcraft might be well greater than Go. A full fledged MOBA may have even more variations than Starcraft. The reason for this is that a MOBA --- which has a service game model --- is continually evolving. More units are being added to the game, units are being balanced and rebalanced. Units have all sorts of different abilities.
     
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