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antiterror13

Brigadier
Sadly, I've never seen the Yang Tze or the Yellow River in person, but they and lots of other places in China are on my bucket list to explore once my wife and I retire in a few years. However, I was just in Shanghai this February and will travel there again soon (happy with the 10-year visa instead of the 2-year ones). Agreed air is cleaner now than five or even three years ago, but the local folks tell me there are still more bad days than good; which is in line with my experience. It's possible areas outside industrial or economic zones are cleaner though, but my colleagues tell me their villages inland are starting to build up too, and pollution is everywhere.

As for the "you could do anything" bit, that was more true a few years ago than now. I hear that enough from colleagues and from "lao baixing" (the common folks) like taxi drivers to get the sense the CCP is intruding more into the public's personal lives. The lao baixing take it in stride though, and they support Xi in spite of that because they think he and Wang Qishan are doing great jobs fighting corruption and upending some of the vested interests.

cool. You believe what you want to believe ... and you can believe selected views/news that support your opinions .. but was in China 4 months ago, so very fresh and I saw and experienced it by myself .... I don't see people afraid of showing their opinions ... mostly (yes, you are not allowed swearing about Xi or Chinese Govt .... you can try the same in Singapore .... and good luck with that ;) )

I can show you the real photo of myself and fam in great wall in Beijing .. you can see how clear the air was (my 3rd day), just not sure how to insert a photo from my hdd .. anybody can help
 
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jobjed

Captain
Laudable aspirations indeed. And I applaud your dedication!

However, keep in mind that, to those native Chinese with native degrees, you are different. Even those who get their BS in China, advanced degrees abroad then go back, are considered outsiders by those natives. You guys would be outside outsiders. Many of my friends found out about that the hard way back in the 2000's when many overseas Chinese went back. The so called "sea turtle era". And then it becomes "seaweed era" if you know what I mean...

It may be easier for you to get a job in China at first. But when time comes for a potential promotion, they (the senior management) will always promote their own. I've talked with enough Chinese scholars to get some clue of what's going go. Part of it is jealousy and another part is the ability for them to expand their influence. Outsiders don't have any connection/network and can't help them further expand their influence. So in other words, you have no use for them. Plus, they don't know when you change your mind and want to go home again (no matter how much you want to convince them otherwise, they won't believe you). If they invest so much of their political currency in you, they expect payback. What if you suddenly decide to go back home? they've wasted their precious political capital... It's a lot safer for them to invest in one of their own.

In a way, you face another kind of glass ceiling. Just wait and see. I'm not saying it's impossible. Just another obstacle in front of you. No matter what you do, put all your heart and passion in it and you will succeed. Best of luck!

That is true and forming networks and so on will be crucial. I may never reach the very top of the organisation for whom I work but I'm sure the wages I'm paid are more than enough. I can find financial satisfaction in China but I can never find patriotic satisfaction overseas. It nice and all to follow Chinese military developments online but the question that always pops up is "what have I done to help?". I can start by contributing to China's economy.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Laudable aspirations indeed. And I applaud your dedication!

However, keep in mind that, to those native Chinese with native degrees, you are different. Even those who get their BS in China, advanced degrees abroad then go back, are considered outsiders by those natives. You guys would be outside outsiders. Many of my friends found out about that the hard way back in the 2000's when many overseas Chinese went back. The so called "sea turtle era". And then it becomes "seaweed era" if you know what I mean...

It may be easier for you to get a job in China at first. But when time comes for a potential promotion, they (the senior management) will always promote their own. I've talked with enough Chinese scholars to get some clue of what's going go. Part of it is jealousy and another part is the ability for them to expand their influence. Outsiders don't have any connection/network and can't help them further expand their influence. So in other words, you have no use for them. Plus, they don't know when you change your mind and want to go home again (no matter how much you want to convince them otherwise, they won't believe you). If they invest so much of their political currency in you, they expect payback. What if you suddenly decide to go back home? they've wasted their precious political capital... It's a lot safer for them to invest in one of their own.

In a way, you face another kind of glass ceiling. Just wait and see. I'm not saying it's impossible. Just another obstacle in front of you. No matter what you do, put all your heart and passion in it and you will succeed. Best of luck!
Oh ho ho, now we're getting deep into it! Yes, I have also heard of this as well, BUT first, at least it's not due to what you are; it's due to how you behave. Sea turtles like me usually cannot perfectly navigate the complexities of relationships (guanxi) in China and will thus suffer somewhat compared to a person who knows exactly what and how much is appropriate to gain the boss' favor. (Though I'm not unprepared. Don't let my English fool you; I can easily blend into a conversation-heavy Chinese party without anyone suspecting that I didn't grow up in China!) Secondly, it's nowhere near as severe (socially and in the workplace) as racial discrimination (honestly it even feels a little bit like playful family antics to me) and even if it is, the bright spot is that my children will be 100% Chinese in culture and blood. They can finally enjoy being the mainstream and will be protected from or even oblivious to the existence of discrimination completely, and with some extra elbow grease, they can proudly say that they represent and are represented by the world's strongest superpower! Material things are bleh; I want my children to inherit this!
 

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Physics Nobel laureate Yang Chen Ning has reclaimed his Chinese citizenship.
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Two top Chinese-American scientists have dropped their U.S. citizenship
By Kathleen McLaughlinFeb. 24, 2017 , 7:45 AM
BEIJING–Two top Chinese scientists, one a Nobel laureate and the other a winner of a top computer science prize, have renounced their U.S. citizenship to become citizens of China.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) confirmed this week that Yang Chen Ning, 94, who shared the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1957, and Andrew Yao (Yao Qizhi), 70, the A.M. Turing Award winner in 2000, were recently inducted into the academy’s ranks as domestic academicians rather than foreign. Both men have been affiliated with Tsinghua University here since 2004.

CAS released a statement confirming the news but offered no further explanation as to why the two had given up their U.S. citizenship. Both men were born in China but established their careers in the United States and retained their naturalized U.S. citizenship even after returning to China. Neither Yang nor Yao could be reached for comment.

Andrew Yao, a winner of the A.M. Turing Award for work in computer science, has also given up his U.S. citizenship.
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“They are both internationally renowned scholars,” CAS said in its statement. “Their entry into the academy's faculty will increase the influence of China's scientific circles globally.”


The academy also confirmed that the two are the first international scientists to join its ranks as domestic members after changing their citizenship. According to the U.S. Federal Register, both Yang and Yao formally renounced U.S. citizenship in late 2015. The news came to light only this month when Chinese media reported they had joined CAS as domestic academics.

The development adds another Nobel laureate to China’s ranks. Yang won the 1957 prize in physics with his colleague Tsung-Dao Lee, another China-born U.S. citizen, for their work on parity laws. In 2010, Liu Xiaobo became the first-ever Chinese citizen residing in China to win a Nobel—the Peace Prize. Then in 2015, medical researcher Tu Youyou became the first to win in the sciences. Tu, who helped develop the groundbreaking antimalaria drug artemisinin, was part of a trio of scientists who won the prize in physiology or medicine for their global efforts on communicable diseases.

China has often complained that international science prize selection boards have long favored Chinese winners only when they aren’t citizens. In recent years, as China has increased its spending and focused on science, prestige and recognition have grown ever-more important. The country has invested heavily in programs to lure back top scientific talent from overseas but with mixed results.

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vesicles

Colonel
Oh ho ho, now we're getting deep into it! Yes, I have also heard of this as well, BUT first, at least it's not due to what you are; it's due to how you behave. Sea turtles like me usually cannot perfectly navigate the complexities of relationships (guanxi) in China and will thus suffer somewhat compared to a person who knows exactly what and how much is appropriate to gain the boss' favor. (Though I'm not unprepared. Don't let my English fool you; I can easily blend into a conversation-heavy Chinese party without anyone suspecting that I didn't grow up in China!) Secondly, it's nowhere near as severe (socially and in the workplace) as racial discrimination (honestly it even feels a little bit like playful family antics to me) and even if it is, the bright spot is that my children will be 100% Chinese in culture and blood. They can finally enjoy being the mainstream and will be protected from or even oblivious to the existence of discrimination completely, and with some extra elbow grease, they can proudly say that they represent and are represented by the world's strongest superpower! Material things are bleh; I want my children to inherit this!

Good for you! Pick up the good work!
 
now I read China Bets on Sensitive U.S. Start-Ups, Worrying the Pentagon
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When the United States Air Force wanted help making military robots more perceptive, it turned to a Boston-based artificial intelligence start-up called Neurala. But when Neurala needed money, it got little response from the American military.

So Neurala turned to
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, landing an undisclosed sum from an investment firm backed by a state-run Chinese company.

Chinese firms have become significant investors in American start-ups working on cutting-edge technologies with potential military applications. The start-ups include companies that make rocket engines for spacecraft, sensors for autonomous navy ships, and printers that make flexible screens that could be used in fighter-plane cockpits. Many of the Chinese firms are owned by state-owned companies or have connections to Chinese leaders.

The deals are ringing alarm bells in Washington. According to a new white paper commissioned by the Department of Defense, Beijing is encouraging Chinese companies with close government ties to invest in American start-ups specializing in critical technologies like artificial intelligence and robots to advance China’s military capacity as well as its economy.

The white paper, which was distributed to the senior levels of the Trump administration this week, concludes that United States government controls that are supposed to protect potentially critical technologies are falling short, according to three people knowledgeable about its contents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

“What drives a lot of the concern is that China is a military competitor,” said James Lewis, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, who is familiar with the report. “How do you deal with a military competitor playing in your most innovative market?”

The Chinese deals can pose a number of issues. Investors could push start-ups to strike partnerships or make licensing or hiring decisions that could expose intellectual property. They can also get an inside glimpse of how technology is being developed and could have access to a start-up’s offices or computers.

Trump administration officials and lawmakers are raising broad questions about China’s economic relationship with the United States. While the report was commissioned before President Trump took office, some Republicans have called for tighter regulation of foreign takeovers by giving a broader mandate to the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. Known as Cfius, the committee reviews foreign takeovers of American companies, but critics say that its scope does not include smaller deals and that it has other weak spots.

Ashton B. Carter, former secretary of defense under President Barack Obama, had tapped Mike A. Brown, the former chief executive of Symantec, the cybersecurity firm, to lead the inquiry into the Chinese investments, according to two of the people aware of the white paper’s contents.

A spokesman for the Department of Defense said it “will not discuss the details or components of draft internal working documents.”

The size and breadth of the deals are not clear because start-ups and their backers are not obligated to disclose them. Over all,
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in the American start-up world, investing $9.9 billion in 2015, according to data from the research firm CB Insights, more than four times the level the year before.

Neither the high-tech start-ups nor their Chinese investors have been accused of wrongdoing, and experts said much of the activity could be innocent. Chinese investors have money and are looking for returns, while the Chinese government has pushed investment in ways to clean up China’s skies, upgrade its industrial capacity and unclog its snarled highways. Proponents of the deals said American limits on technology exports would still apply to American start-ups with Chinese backers.

But the fund flows fit China’s pattern of using state-guided investment to help its industrial policy and enhance its technology holdings, as it has recently done
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. China has also
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to steal military-related technology.

Still, some start-ups — especially those making hardware rather than money-drawing mobile apps like Snapchat — said Chinese money was sometimes the only available funding. But even a company struggling for money can ultimately come up with a big breakthrough.

Chinese investors have a bigger appetite for risk and a willingness to do deals fast, said Neurala’s chief executive, Max Versace.

To demonstrate his software’s capabilities to the Air Force, Mr. Versace said, Neurala used its software on a ground drone from Best Buy to make it recognize and follow around the service’s secretary, then Deborah Lee James, during a meeting.

“We were told by the secretary of the Air Force, ‘Your tech is awesome, we should put it everywhere,’” he said. “No one followed up.”

Neurala finally took a minority investment from a Chinese fund called Haiyin Capital as part of a $1.2 million round, Mr. Versace said. He did not disclose the size of Haiyin Capital’s commitment. Haiyin Capital is backed by a state-run Chinese company, Everbright Group, according to a
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from one of its subsidiaries.

American military officials have “figured out a very good way to give $10 billion to Raytheon,” he said. “But to give a start-up $1 million to develop a proof of concept? That’s still very, very hard.”

Late last year, a research firm called Defense Group Inc. argued
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that the Neurala investment could give China access to the company’s underlying technologies. It also said the deal could create enough uncertainty that American officials would steer clear of Neurala’s technology, effectively wasting any American money that had gone into the firm.

Mr. Versace of Neurala said the company took pains to ensure that the Chinese investor had no access to its source code or other important technological information.

To address concerns that it was not tapping innovations from start-ups, the Pentagon in 2015 set up a group called Defense Innovation Unit Experimental to enable investments into promising new companies. While at first it struggled, in 2016 it helped carry off a barrage of deals. The unit also prepared the white paper.

In May 2015, Haiyin Capital also invested an amount it did not disclose in XCOR Aerospace, a Mojave, Calif., commercial space-travel company that makes spacecraft and engines and has worked with NASA. XCOR did not respond to requests for comment.

In an
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, Haiyin Capital’s founder, Yuquan Wang, said that part of its goal is to build Chinese industrial capabilities and that it can be hard to get space technology into China because of American export controls.

About the fund’s investments, Mr. Wang said, “We strive to get a portion of research and development moved back to China so that we can avoid China being only a low-end manufacturer.” Haiyin Capital did not respond to a request for comment.
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... continuation of the NYT article:
Quanergy, a company that works on the light-detecting sensors used in driverless cars,
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financing last summer that included funds from the partly state-backed Chinese venture fund GP Capital. A few days later, Quanergy purchased
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for an undisclosed amount. Alongside a wide array of commercial technology, it makes sensors for military driverless vehicles and a security system billed as “the most complete and intelligent 3-D perimeter fencing and intrusion-detection system.”

Quanergy did not respond to requests for comment. Its investors also include foreign automakers and South Korea’s Samsung.

Chinese investors have also made a push in another industry, flexible electronics. The technology, which the
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is a priority for the American military, can help make electronics lighter and easier to attach to anything from a uniform to an airplane.

In 2016, a Silicon Valley start-up called Kateeva that makes machines that print flexible screens
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from a group of Chinese investors. Three took board seats, including Redview Capital, a spinoff of a firm run by the former Chinese premier
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’s son,
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Kateeva’s chief executive, Alain Harrus, said that while investors in Silicon Valley had begun looking more at hardware companies, raising big rounds for capital-intensive technology can be tough. Kateeva ultimately raised money where its customers were, in China and South Korea. Mr. Harrus said he believed more should be done in America to figure out the best way to nurture and fund core next-generation technologies.

Ken Wilcox, chairman emeritus of Silicon Valley Bank, said in the past six months he had been approached by three different Chinese state-owned enterprises about being their agent in Northern California to buy technology, though he declined.

“In all three cases they said they had a mandate from Beijing, and they had no idea what they wanted to buy,” he said. “It was just any and all tech.”
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B.I.B.

Captain
That's your hypothesis. However, as Vesicles demonstrated, the evidence points otherwise.

In fact, the most common scenario these days is that successful people stay in China to work, while sending their wife and kids abroad to take advantage of the environment and education.[/QUOTE]

Depending on what country or city one chose to migrate to,one can see a backlash emerge against these type of migrants. They are often viewed as non tax paying residents making the moast of the country's free education and medicare. I could be wrong but a decade or so ago they were referred to as astronaut migrants.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Bragging about which country a scientist would favor is of superficial and worthless value. Really if it were that important the West wouldn't be worrying over Chinese technological advancement as they have in recent weeks. Besides most Americans believe all US advancements are accomplished by white scientists and engineers and Asians in research and development are affirmative action cases. Some members of Congress have publicly called for a ban of foreign students especially from China to US colleges and universities. It just shows when they say everyone prefers to go to the US to why the US is ahead, it's pure propaganda and not based in truth. Again no reason to be alarmed over Chinese technology advancements if they don't have what it takes to be innovative and creative. Yet they are worried...

A story the media won't report much about is how foreign smart phone companies are watching China for technology and app ideas. And that's why China's financial tech is ahead of anyone else which is also being watched by the West as well. In the US new tech is hard to adopt by movers and shakers. Look at how long it took for credit cards to change and they're still vulnerable to being hacked even with the new tech because credit card companies have to accommodate those who are reluctant to spend the money for change. And that's what it really comes down to. Advancement in tech is really driven by those who have and more importantly are willing to spend the money and not where scientists and engineers prefer to go.

The US looking to stop Chinese investment in new US start-ups? Count that as a bad mark on the US's future. These start-ups wouldn't be accepting Chinese investments if Americans or other rich-Western countries were investing in them instead. No investment from home and no investment from China means no technological advancement at all. Look at the skepticism of the EM drive in the West. If China didn't dare invest money to see if it worked, no one would be working on it. What's already happening that will negate any US attempt to stifle Chinese investment is Americans with good ideas and looking for an open-minded out-of-the-box-minded investors are going to China to develop their ideas. The only way the US can stop that is to be everything they charge China is as the reason why China is not innovative and creative.
 
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