Military situation in the sino-indian border

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AssassinsMace

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China still have alot to catch up.
Most of the robotics and manufacturing equipments in China generally use Japanese and Germany parts (precision stepper motors, sensors ..etc)
Still lacking in semiconductor chips and manufacturing equipments.

It ain't easy, Still a long way...

Then why are they all afraid? Where's India's technology where you all are so confident for them? See you don't need them for you to believe India will beat China. If the countries you mentioned supremacy was assured, they wouldn't be afraid especially how the West is upset about China's initiative to develop key technologies domestically. Even the staunches naysayers of the past are worried. Why? Because China has advanced further than they ever imagined were possible. Be prepared for greater disappointment in the near future.
 

manqiangrexue

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It has no air coverage right now at Indian ocean. Put it at disadvantage.

Firstly, that completely ignores what I said about the scope of a full on war. China air force, army, navy, missile forces attacking Indian forces directly through land in response to India attacking Chinese merchant ships. How will India deal with that?? That's what attacking Chinese merchant ships and incited all-out war will bring.

Secondly, Chinese ASBMs can be fired from long distances away to target Indian naval vessels in the Indian ocean. Chinese destroyers and submarines will supplement this. Liaoning has limited air wing capability but it's enough air power to deal with what India's navy can muster unless it's a battle close enough to India where MKIs from land can participate. But even then, smart money says the MKIs will be more than preoccupied with all the J-10X and J-11X pouring in through the western front.

India will not escalate like this and see their country in flames.

China still have alot to catch up.
Most of the robotics and manufacturing equipments in China generally use Japanese and Germany parts (precision stepper motors, sensors ..etc)
Still lacking in semiconductor chips and manufacturing equipments.

It ain't easy, Still a long way...

Long way to go, yes, but that's only because China is going so very far. Catching up is needed, only in the certain areas of deficiency (whereas gap-widening is needed in areas of strength), but cherry-picking China's weaknesses against foreign niche strengths does not mean that China is behind in the big picture. The US sources a lot of precision machinery too from these 2 countries; does the US also have a "long way to go to catch up?" If China actually did all the catching up and became impervious to even cherry-picking niche examples, it would literally be the best at everything in the world, which no nation has ever achieved (but maybe China will!). China can produce a 5th generation stealth fighter (selected out of 2 designs). Can Germany or Japan do that? Chinese trains outshine both German and Japanese counterparts both by domestic operation and by foreign bidding. Chinese supercomputers are eating everyone else's lunch and they're getting ready to take a backseat to Chinese quantum technology. Looks like these countries have a lot of catching up to do with China too... except they're falling farther behind.
 
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Equation

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Firstly, that completely ignores what I said about the scope of a full on war. China air force, army, navy, missile forces attacking Indian forces directly through land in response to India attacking Chinese merchant ships. How will India deal with that?? That's what attacking Chinese merchant ships and incited all-out war will bring.

Secondly, Chinese ASBMs can be fired from long distances away to target Indian naval vessels in the Indian ocean. Chinese destroyers and submarines will supplement this. Liaoning has limited air wing capability but it's enough air power to deal with what India's navy can muster unless it's a battle close enough to India where MKIs from land can participate. But even then, smart money says the MKIs will be more than preoccupied with all the J-10X and J-11X pouring in through from the western front.

India will not escalate like this and see their country in flames.



Long way to go, yes, but that's only because China is going so very far. Catching up is needed, only in the certain areas of deficiency (whereas gap-widening is needed in areas of strength), but cherry-picking China's weaknesses against foreign niche strengths does not mean that China is behind in the big picture. The US sources a lot of precision machinery too from these 2 countries; does the US also have a "long way to go to catch up?" If China actually did all the catching up and became impervious to even cherry-picking niche examples, it would literally be the best at everything in the world, which no nation has ever achieved. China can produce a 5th generation stealth fighter. Can Germany or Japan do that? Chinese trains outshine both German and Japanese counterparts both by domestic operation and by foreign bidding. Chinese supercomputers are eating everyone else's lunch and they're getting ready to take a backseat to Chinese quantum technology. Looks like they've got a lot of catching up to do too... except they're falling farther behind.

Don't forget China's quantum teleportation technology is eating everyone's lunch as well.
 

Orthan

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Have you been living in a cave for the last 6 months?? YES, the US and SK might strike NK. There is so much evidence, including in the mobilization of military assets

Aside from THAAD, where is the evidence of mobilization of military assets?

India's power (...) growing much slower than China's (...)If China were to strike India militarily to remove it from the disputed region, India would have no response.

Really? fortunately for china, i doubt that the chinese leaders believe in that. They would risk a serious misscalculation.
 

manqiangrexue

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Aside from THAAD, where is the evidence of mobilization of military assets?



Really? fortunately for china, i doubt that the chinese leaders believe in that. They would risk a serious misscalculation.
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3 aircraft carriers, USS Michigan nuclear submarine recently deployed to Korean peninsula. There could be more; I found these in like 10 seconds.

This is in addition to the forces constantly deployed to SK, always ready to invade NK, where it not for China's stabilizing protection. This means that just rhetoric alone is enough to cause grave concern even if further deployments were not made.

Orthan. Please. You aren't up to date on current events. You lack background knowledge. You use capitalization randomly and you can't spell "miscalculation." Stop embarrassing yourself with all this shit.
 
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tidalwave

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Then why are they all afraid? Where's India's technology where you all are so confident for them? See you don't need them for you to believe India will beat China. If the countries you mentioned supremacy was assured, they wouldn't be afraid especially how the West is upset about China's initiative to develop key technologies domestically. Even the staunches naysayers of the past are worried. Why? Because China has advanced further than they ever imagined were possible. Be prepared for greater disappointment in the near future.

Can't compare India and China one on one like that. China needs to held at higher standard because West is against it. Arms embargo and high-tech blocking.
China has to gone extra extra miles on order to deal with all it's surroundings. China has achieved alot but I still see alot of holes across general sectors. Not just cherry picking certain spots here and there.
 

tidalwave

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Firstly, that completely ignores what I said about the scope of a full on war. China air force, army, navy, missile forces attacking Indian forces directly through land in response to India attacking Chinese merchant ships. How will India deal with that?? That's what attacking Chinese merchant ships and incited all-out war will bring.

Secondly, Chinese ASBMs can be fired from long distances away to target Indian naval vessels in the Indian ocean. Chinese destroyers and submarines will supplement this. Liaoning has limited air wing capability but it's enough air power to deal with what India's navy can muster unless it's a battle close enough to India where MKIs from land can participate. But even then, smart money says the MKIs will be more than preoccupied with all the J-10X and J-11X pouring in through the western front.

India will not escalate like this and see their country in flames.



Long way to go, yes, but that's only because China is going so very far. Catching up is needed, only in the certain areas of deficiency (whereas gap-widening is needed in areas of strength), but cherry-picking China's weaknesses against foreign niche strengths does not mean that China is behind in the big picture. The US sources a lot of precision machinery too from these 2 countries; does the US also have a "long way to go to catch up?" If China actually did all the catching up and became impervious to even cherry-picking niche examples, it would literally be the best at everything in the world, which no nation has ever achieved (but maybe China will!). China can produce a 5th generation stealth fighter (selected out of 2 designs). Can Germany or Japan do that? Chinese trains outshine both German and Japanese counterparts both by domestic operation and by foreign bidding. Chinese supercomputers are eating everyone else's lunch and they're getting ready to take a backseat to Chinese quantum technology. Looks like these countries have a lot of catching up to do with China too... except they're falling farther behind.

Let me ask you this. What's China largest imports that it can't produce and roughly what's the dollar value. That should tell you whether I am cherry picking only certain things. I am looking at the big picture and including the dollar amount
 
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