Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

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Naval Today said:
The U.S. Navy is set to christen its newest Freedom-variant littoral combat ship, USS Wichita (LCS 13), during a ceremony on Saturday, September 17 in Marinette, Wisconsin.

“The christening of the future USS Wichita brings this warship one step closer to joining our nation’s growing fleet,” said Ray Mabus, secretary of the Navy. “The skill and dedication of the men and women who brought this ship from an idea to a reality—our country’s incomparable shipbuilders—will be remembered for years to come as the LCS 13 deploys around the world.”

The future USS Wichita is the third naval vessel to honor Kansas’s largest city. The first (CA 45) was a heavy cruiser in service from 1939 to 1947. Active during World War II, Wichita supported amphibious landings during Operation Torch in November 1942 in the European Theater and later participated in the Battles of the Philippine Sea and Leyte Gulf and the invasion of Okinawa in 1944 in the Pacific Theater, earning 13 battle stars for wartime service.

The second USS Wichita (AOR 1) was a first-in-class replenishment oiler in service from 1969 to 1993. During her first three deployments, AOR 1 made numerous line swings to replenish ships on “Yankee Station,” earning four battle stars for service during the Vietnam War.

The LCS class consists of two variants, the Freedom variant and the Independence variant, designed and built by two industry teams. The Freedom variant team is led by Lockheed Martin (for the odd-numbered hulls, e.g. LCS 1). The Independence variant team is led by Austal USA (for LCS 6 and the subsequent even-numbered hulls).
 
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So, they are really pumping up the production of these vessels.

I know we call the LCS, but let's be real...at 3,500-4,000 tons, and with the new uparmament they are going to get, and with the new crewing and use...that's what they are...and what they always should have been.

Right now, there are fourteen of these things in the water:

Freedom Class:- Launches

LCS-1 Freedom 2006
LCS-3 Ft. Worth 2010
LCS-4 Milwaukee 2013
LCS-7 Detroit 2014
LCS-9 Little Rock 2015
LCS-11 Sioux City 2016
LCS-13 Wichita 2016

Independence Class - Launches

LCS-2 Independence 2008
LCS-4 Coronado 2012
LCS-6 Jackson 2013
LCS-8 Montgomery 2014
LCS-10 Gabrielle Gifford 2015
LCS-12 Omaha 2015
LCS-14 Manchester 2016

And they are going strong now.

Between the two yards each are able to launch one or two per year now that they are ramped up.
 
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But i prefer laauuuggghhh
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I don't!

now I went back to see
Jan 25, 2016
If this issue was a stand alone event it is probably reasonable to conclude that it is merely procedural. Unfortunately, what is happening with LCS-3 has similarly features as happened to LCS-5 with gear and lubricant issue. It also had been reported from LCS-1's deployment of significant maintenance issues due partly to tight crew sizing. The combination of similar problems across the same class would raise probable cause that the problem may not simply be procedural but possibly systemic.
(after two tin cans broke down)
I admit I didn't believe it much back then ... in hindsight, of course Brumby was right, and they should've grounded, checked them all
 
here's what NavyTimes had to say:
LCS Montgomery limps back to port only days after its commissioning
The brand new littoral combat ship Montgomery suffered two engineering casualties at sea this week, only three days after its commissioning ceremony.

The Montgomery, an Independence-class trimaran variant that was commissioned Saturday in Mobile, Alabama, is the third LCS to experience engineering problems in as many weeks. The problems forced the crew to lock both the port propeller shafts, complicating their transit and limiting their top speed.

The ship is headed for Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for fuel and then will go to Mayport on its own power to receive “warranty repairs,” Naval Surface Force Pacific said in a Friday statement.

“On Sept. 13, the littoral combat ship USS Montgomery (LCS 8) experienced two unrelated casualties within a 24-hour period while transiting from Mobile, Alabama to her homeport of San Diego, Calif.,” the statement said.

“The first casualty happened when the crew detected a seawater leak in the hydraulic cooling system. Later that day, Montgomery experienced a casualty to one of its gas turbine engines,” the SURFPAC statement continued.

“The built-in redundancy of the ship's propulsion plant allows these ships to operate with multiple engine configurations. However, with the two casualties resulting in the loss of both port shafts, it was determined that the best course of action would be to send the ship to Mayport to conduct both repairs.”
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I've watched it all only because the music reminded me parts of the theme song from The Rock :)
I played it again and ... where was the main gun??
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the close-up:
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for comparison:
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six out of seven commissioned unavailable (five broken, Jackson being repaired after ... see the post right above) and LCS Program Still 'On Track' Despite Breakdowns, CNO Says
(so a ship would have to founder for the program not be 'on track' or what?)
Despite five broken ships within 12 months, a recent
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, and a wide-ranging and ongoing engineering review, the
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program, saying other ship classes experienced similar early struggles.

Speaking outside the International Seapower Symposium in Newport, Rhode Island, on Wednesday, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson praised the vessel as an ideal platform for international engagement by the Navy.

"I think that overall, this program is on track," he said. "As with any program of this complexity, we have some very bright people who are making these decisions, designing this program, getting it to sea. But it's really complicated. So while we have maybe a 90-percent solution, we're going to learn. And that's where we are."

Richardson's remarks came just a week after the Independence-class USS Montgomery (LCS-8) suffered
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three days after its commissioning, forcing the crew to postpone a transit to the ship's San Diego homeport and set course for Mayport, Florida, for repairs.

Since last December, the Freedom-class littoral combat ships Milwaukee,
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have all sustained engineering casualties requiring repairs. Another Independence-class ship, the Coronado, was sidelined at the end of August with a
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Only two active littoral combat ships -- the Independence and Jackson -- have not sustained engineering casualties since commissioning.

Richardson compared these problems to those that occurred in the early days of the DDG-51
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program and the LCS predecessor, the
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The destroyer experienced problems with some of its shipboard systems during sea testing in the early 1990s, prompting Navy brass to call for late modifications and another round of testing. The aluminum-hulled frigates sustained a rash of structural cracks before the design problem was addressed.

"We're learning lessons as it starts up -- in engineering -- as we get this class of ship to sea," Richardson said. "In both hull forms, we're finding things we need to address from an engineering standpoint. We're seeing areas where crew training, preparedness of the crew to operate the ship -- we're learning lessons there as well."

At least one of the LCS engineering casualties has been traced to sailor error: The Freedom-class Fort Worth recently departed for its San Diego homeport after eight months in Singapore after experiencing a casualty resulting from a failure to apply lubrication oil to engine gears.

Naval Surface Forces Commander Vice Adm. Tom Rowden announced Sept. 5 the Navy had completed an engineering stand-down of all LCS squadrons, and would undergo an
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that includes retraining for all crews and possible follow-on actions.

Days later, Rowden announced that the first four ships -- two from the monohull Freedom class made by Lockheed Martin and Marinette Marine, and two from the Austal-built Independence class -- would become test ships as the Navy overhauls the crewing and deployment concepts.

"The four test ships will not only allow us to get through an aggressive testing program, as we get this class out to sea; it will allow us to learn lessons faster than we would in a deployed context," Richardson said. "And then we'll have the best balance of training and operations and forward deployment, forward presence. That's what I hope we'll find in sort of the adjustments we're making, managing the LCS class."

The ongoing review is being overseen by the Navy's Surface Warfare Officers School in Newport and is expected to be complete by the end of October. The school is also developing a knowledge test and additional specialized training for LCS engineers, to be delivered to them by Oct. 5.

Meanwhile, the Navy has continued its rollout of the 26 planned littoral combat ships. An eighth LCS, the Detroit, is set to be commissioned Oct. 22.

"These ships are going to last for decades, in the ideal, and we're going to be pushing forward into the future," Richardson said. "There's always going to be a risk; we're going to do the best we can."
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six out of seven commissioned unavailable (five broken, Jackson being repaired after ... see the post right above) and LCS Program Still 'On Track' Despite Breakdowns, CNO Says
(so a ship would have to founder for the program not be 'on track' or what?)
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The five ships are not "broken." When most English speaking people here the word broken, they think that something is unable to operate at all. That has not been the case.

They have had problems. Certain systems have had issues...and the issues need to be resolved. But that does not necessarily mean at all that the program itself should either stop, or that the program or be halted.

Problems have occurred. Most of the ships made their way home under their own power.

They have discovered crewing issues, which quite frankly may have led to some of the breakdown issues.

They have seen that the vessels need better armament and better armor (like many of us said all along) and they are now addressing those issues.

The program though is moving forward.

Fourteen ships have been launched. Five more ships are actively under construction. Seven more ships are on order.

Most of the work associated with all of those ships, the 14 which have been launched (seven of which are commissioned), the five building, and the seven on order can still continue even as they address the issues.

I think that is what the CNO is saying.
 
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