J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

[siegecrossbow]

Uppps ... I really do not want to start a contest between siege and me ... with his vast experience I really can't no catch him. Even more I was already wrong with my estimations before ... more than once !

However ... this time I'm quite certain !

Deino

Deino raises a good point. I forgot that the recolored the early J-20s!

 

[Ultra]

Nice ... if I had to risk a bet I would say (from left to right) ... I assume this at the CFTE:

J-7B - JH-7B - 2x J-16 or J-11BS - J-15S (the shadow of the spine looks similar to the Flankers left & right) - J-16 or J-11BS - J-10B - J-20 "2001'

Deino

The one in the middle with canards is J-16??? If I am not mistaken, that's the J-15 for carrier operation. In all the pictures of J-16 or J-11BS they are all without canards.

 

[JayBird]

The one in the middle with canards is J-16??? If I am not mistaken, that's the J-15 for carrier operation. In all the pictures of J-16 or J-11BS they are all without canards.

Nice ... if I had to risk a bet I would say (from left to right) ... I assume this at the CFTE:
J-7B - JH-7B - 2x J-16 or J-11BS - J-15S (the shadow of the spine looks similar to the Flankers left & right) - J-16 or J-11BS - J-10B - J-20 "2001'
Deino

Yes, but Deino clearly mentioned that was J-15S in his post too.

 

[Ultra]

I think he ment J-16 or J-11BS before he get to the next aircraft which is J-10B. He was wrong about previous aircraft too then because those darker flanker are clearly not J-15 (without canards).

 

[Deino]

@ Ultra .... to admit I really don't understand Your point nor Your quite aggressive behavior by insisting that I was wrong and even more wrong before.

Therefore, sorry for being now a bit rude perhaps ... but I think I made quite clear that there are the following aircraft from from left to right (maybe that's Your problem) and even more if You read carefully (maybe another problem) that they are:

1. aircraft (far left) = J-7B (could also be a H or K-model)
2. aircraft = maybe a JH-7B (could also be a A-model)
3. & 4. aircraft = 2x J-16 or J-11BS (since theyare dark-grey and are clearly two-seater)
5. aircraft = maybe a J-15S (since the shadow of the spine looks similar to the Flankers left & right)
6. aircraft = again maybe a J-16 or a J-11BS
7. aircraft = maybe a J-10B (could also be an A-model)
8. aircraft = J-20 (IMO most likely the repainted "2001", since no other 201x-bird was at the CFTE in Jan. '14)

Therefore let's try with an image + text !

The one in the middle with canards is J-16??? If I am not mistaken, that's the J-15 for carrier operation. In all the pictures of J-16 or J-11BS they are all without canards.

So ... where did I say the yellow one with canards in the middle should be a J-16 ??? I clearly said if You would quote my post that I assume this to be a J-15S due to the similar shadow of the spine.

I think he ment J-16 or J-11BS before he get to the next aircraft which is J-10B. He was wrong about previous aircraft too then because those darker flanker are clearly not J-15 (without canards).

If You would have read my text carefully, then everything would be fine from the beginning ... and where was I wrong again ??

Honestly I just had a very bad exam in Chemistry and right after the exam my pupil accused me that the questions were not correct, that they were unclear .... and finally - even if he still refused to admit - it was clear as the sun, that he simply read the data-table from the wrong side (even if stated from left to right), that he even omitted one substance ... but as always it's the teacher's fault.

Anyway if there are still some thing not clearly explained ... I will try again !

Deino

 

[asif iqbal]

I agree with Deino it could not be clearer

 

[Ultra]

LOL, my mistake then. I am getting confused by your comma and "or"
I stand corrected. You were right. I was just wrong, and tired!

And I didn't meant to offend you when I say you were wrong - just thought you might have made a mistake but clearly I was the one making mistake.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I wonder if all those aircraft lined up like that is for some promotional event meaning are we going to see pictures and video of it up close?

 

[Air Force Brat]

LOL, my mistake then. I am getting confused by your comma and "or"
I stand corrected. You were right. I was just wrong, and tired!

And I didn't meant to offend you when I say you were wrong - just thought you might have made a mistake but clearly I was the one making mistake.

Well as Deino noted, we have all made mistakes,,,,, except for a few or our real "experts" who couldn't possibly ever be wrong??? ROFL thank you ultra not only for fessing up but for your very fine apology. that's absolutely the right attitude here on the Sino Defense when you are among your friends and compatriots. Good Show Brother! and thanks again Deino for that very thoughtful teacher moment? I am proud to number each of you as my friends.
And now back to the "Star of our Show-- the Chengdu J-20?? Chengdu, still time to invite Deino for the Spring Air Combat Monthly--think about it???

 

[Deino]

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And now back to the "Star of our Show-- the Chengdu J-20?? Chengdu, still time to invite Deino for the Spring Air Combat Monthly--think about it???

Thanks ... and it seems as if You hacked my PC, since there will be indeed a "Chinese Fighter Report" in the next Combat Aircraft monthly sadly not with a surprising invitation from CAC but simply as a "current situation" report on China's fighter force.

Deino