Thanks Tam. I appreciate your input.It can be that at some point in time, there are going to be huge flood events caused by climate change or shifts. But because there might be a great flood myth in one mythology does not mean it is the same flood myth shared with other cultures.
It is like with modern times, you can have separate cataclysmic floods that happened in Australia, then in Texas, and then in Southern China. It doesn't mean there is one huge global cataclysmic flood that happened all the way from Southern China to Texas. You can have simultaneous and parallel great flood events happening across the world in a span of years, with leaders of tribes leading their tribes out to safety, and these parallel stories passed on from generation to generation, but it does not mean there is only one leader and one tribe of humanity. Ancient people often tend to portray themselves as the only Ones, unaware of the existence of other cultures on Earth because of the obvious lack of global communication.
So for me, Noah is probably someone who lived in the Fertile Crescent, currently in Iraq. There might have been massive flooding that forced him and his group to move upstream, maybe to southern Turkey, due to the constant floods and rainfall. What started as a simple survival story ended up being a legend, then a myth, then part of a religion.
Yu could simply be one who lived in the Yellow River or Yangtze, where cataclysmic river flooding happens regularly. Maybe one day, the regular event turned extra ordinary, and he could have led his own people to flee and find safety. After all, that's what people should do. Today, we would call these people heroes, and that's how legends, and ultimately myths started. This is a kind of event that can happen in the Nile, or the Ganges, or in the Amazon River, or in any coast. There are modern day floods that looked and felt Biblical in scale and it might feel like the end of the world, Judgement has come, the Revelations is being fulfilled, for these people.
Early China: History, Legends, and Myths
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We all know the national flag: 5 yellow stars in a red sky slanted towards the left.
The flag was set in 1949.
五星出东方利中国。Five stars in the east bless China.
traditional maps were often made with east = left.
The flag was set in 1949.
五星出东方利中国。Five stars in the east bless China.
traditional maps were often made with east = left.
No, I own the game, but it isn't that great. For me Three Kingdoms Total War is more pretentious than faithful. I still prefer Romance of the Three Kingdoms from Koei. But not the recent game. I think the older versions were better than the latest.
Anyone following Carl‘s Chinese history podcast on patreon? He is covering it from early “mythical” dynasties to spring and autumn era currently with Jin and Chu states battling for supremacy. It’s really a good listen, but so complex that I have to refresh my memory and listen to previous episodes and it’s taking a long time to digest it all.
Koreans often perverted Xue Rengui's origin in several of their Goguryeo's TV / Movie; by claiming that he was a Khitan, and not a Han. This lies often make me angry.I love the wood building specially the Tang architecture But not much left in China these days. Hardly any Tang building left standing. I don't blame CR With constant war and upheaval over centuries it is too much to ask to see 7th century building. But replica will do
Growing up I read the exploit of Tang General See Jin Kui or mandarin Xue Rengui which is a popular hero figure in my community. He is the one who subdue Goguryeo for good
Xue Rengui (: 薛仁贵; : 薛仁貴; : Xuē Rénguì; : Hsüeh1 Jen2-kuei4; 614–683), formal name Xue Li (薛禮) but went by the of Rengui, was one of the most famous Chinese generals during the early , due to references to him in popular literature. During his career, he participated in successful campaigns against remnants of and against , with only one major flaw on his record which was an unsuccessful campaign against in 670, where another general in his army refused to listen to Xue's advice and charged ahead and caused the majority of the army to be lost.
Anyway they just uploaded the NHK video about how artist and local people try to revitalized Chinese Qing era village
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Brigadier
I finally got the game, and I was impressed by the Chinese voiceover. It actually uses a lot of classical Chinese with only a few sprinkles of vernacular here and there.
Well, maybe because I use English voiceover, so it feel Cringe when I hear Liu Bei and his two brothers rambling at the beginning of battle. I feel like watching a Westerned Chinese Opera.
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Brigadier
If you can understand Chinese, I definitely recommend using the Chinese voice-overs.
Chinese VO >> English VO if you can understand it. I also find the Chinese UI to be more useful in this game because it makes the names of the regions/towns easier to recognize.